Hey Norm:

 

I think that the value in getting a feed lies mostly in what you do with it,
not just in getting the data in.  Of course there is value in a basic
integration where you just avoid having to populate it into the CMDB by
hand.  There is increased value however when take your integration a little
further.  SMS, Tivoli, etc all can be configured to inventory software as
well as hardware.  You could very easily use SMS to enhance software license
management, or to monitor critical systems for software changes.  You could
use the hardware and software data for closed loop change management, you
could use the user information the SMS collects to associate people to
assets.  The sky is really the limit in terms of how you can leverage the
data.

 

That said, you have to be based on some sort of foundation and the basic
software and hardware information that you can discover from SMS is the
foundation of that ability to explore.  If you don't start from somewhere it
can be tough to really take things to the next level.  Now, that said, if
you are looking at Asset Management practices it is a different story.  You
seem to be focusing your thinking there, with you example of tracking assets
for theft identification purposes.  With respect to formal asset management
I don't believe that 'discovered' data should ever be a primary source.  You
really need to focus on assets where you can show the financial history
there.  Maybe you us data from the CMDB to validate life, but you can't do
financial asset management from a system like SMS.

 

Regards,

 

Adam Pederson

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Subject: Real-World Value of SMS & CMDB

 

Hi everyone:

 

I wanted to discuss the practicality issues of using SMS to populate the
CMDB.  I understand all (or virtually all) of the theory, but now I want to
discuss the real-world practicality of it.

 

By my estimation, the only real-world value I see in using SMS to populate
the CMDB is that it saves someone from having to pound the keyboard to get
system information into it.  That's it.

 

I've heard some folks talk about using SMS to identify deltas within the
hardware inventory.  That is, on Day 1, Dell Workstation 1 was discovered by
SMS.  On Day 9, Dell Workstation 1 is missing.  That's a delta.  An
inventory manager can then be notified of that delta so that he can go
figure out if Dell Workstation 1 got up and "walked away."

 

But the way SMS is configured at most large sites, this would not work.  In
some configurations, items do not get removed from the SMS database until
their machine account in the Active Directory is removed AND the machine
fails to respond to polls for X amount of time.  This does the enterprise no
good in preventing, say, theft, as a thief does not request that the
computer's machine account be removed from the Active Directory before he
steals it! Theft prevention and loss prevention are two of the
justifications in the total cost of ownership calculation, according to
ITIL.

 

But SMS alone won't get you there.  You need something like RFID to truly
identify instances of missing hardware.

 

So what does SMS get you other than not having to pound a keyboard?

 

Thoughts?

Norm

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