I know there's been a patch out for that for some time - that doesn't make
the application work well on a large system like ITSM 7, unless you have a
VERY robust system.

Rick

On 9/12/07, Roger Justice <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> ** There is a patch for Remedy Developer Plaus that works with Admin 7.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rick Cook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 12:35 pm
> Subject: Re: How you you guys analyze ITSM 7 code? Dev Plus? Master AR
> Suite? No logging doesn't count.
>
>  ** Rabi, I have had success using the Sync Search Database to lead me
> through some of the related items in ITSM 7.  Unfortunately, log files are
> about the only other thing that's been educational.  I'm sure that there is
> a utility or two out there that can help - too bad BMC can't seem to provide
> any of their own that are better than stuff we had years ago.
>
> Maybe with the new Admin tool coming out, they'll have the ability to give
> us some functionality that the current tool won't support.  I wait with
> fingers crossed.
>
> Rick
>
> On 9/12/07, Rabi Tripathi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> > Apart from the "BMC Remedy IT Service Management 7.0
> > Architecture" pdf book on BMC's support site, what do
> > you guys use to analyze ITSM workflow to understand
> > and customize it?
> >
> > I have done/tried the following:
> > 1. Workflow Logging - always works, but very tedious.
> > takes time to create test cases and go thru the log
> > and cross ref objects in Remedy Admin. It's my distant
> > friend that I mostly invite only for troubleshooting,
> > not understaning a big chunk of workflow.
> >
> > 2. Browse Remedy Admin - tedious, not to mention it
> > pushes me closer to a doc visit for carpel tunnel
> > syndrom. i never liked Remedy's "point and click"
> > boast. I would rather write code in sentences so that
> > in one glace I could easily understand a chunk of
> > workflow. Try understanding what 10 filters do. How do
> > you like the point and click in Remedy Admin this
> > time?
> >
> > For me, Remedy's strength is the macro programming it
> > allows, not the point and click way of doing it. It
> > sounds good only to the VP who is too lazy busy move
> > his hand to the keyboard and assumes that this
> > excellent trait flows down his chain of command. He's
> > got the purse, so, you've got a whole lot of
> > clickityclick click click to do in your life...
> >
> > 3. Master ARSuite - whoever decided to kill this
> > product, i would like to confront loudly one day. He
> > better have an earplug. I have been able to use it
> > with mixed results for some of the custom apps written
> > locally in ARS 7.
> >
> > Trying to use it for ITSM 7, I can't even get a def
> > file created thru Remedy Admin. Exporting 40 forms
> > causes malloc error on server. Is this typical, or is
> > my server good for nothing bum I sometimes think it
> > is? Currently trying the export in something like 20
> > separate chunks. Not done yet.
> >
> > Anybody able to do a def file of ITSM 7 in bigger
> > chunks? After the def file, i wonder how upset Master
> > AR Suite will be on meeting this new def  (I already
> > know I need to strip the new header line about char
> > set). And after I do some customization, it's another
> > round of fun with def file export. Why ca't I use a
> > true IDE like the ones others had in 90s or even 80s?
> > Yeah, tell me it's coming. I have to see it.
> >
> > 4. Remedy developer plus. I was able to get this to
> > work with Rem admin 6.0.1 only. But loading objects
> > (only Incidet Management) didn't finish in 2 hours (I
> > got 2 GB on my client pc), so I killed it. Is this my
> > unlucky day, so I should't buy NY lottery today or is
> > it like this for you guys too?
> >
> > 5. I dearly miss that simple and sweet free command
> > line utility...what was it called...arexport I think
> > that gave you object details in readable format. I
> > can't even remember it's name. I told you this was a
> > very old friend.  I wish it were still around. Rest in
> > peace, my friend. Your life was a worthy one.
> >
> > Do you guys know of any other book, white paper from
> > BMC. With actual object names, their definitions? Any
> > luck with Master AR Suite or Rem Dev Plus?
> >
> > If anybody wants to tell me about their superior
> > product xyz that is THE BEST out there and would allow
> > such analysis, that I should have already paid for
> > sparing me this long rant...please keep it short, and
> > mention the price. A trial version?
> >
> > ITSM has turned into a monstrous beast never before
> > sighted in this part of the world. Do we have enough
> > ropes and shackles to tame this beast? Or is it going
> > the natural way of the marvelous dinosaurs, too hefty
> > for their own good? Hope not.
> >
> > -Rabi Tripathi
> > NYC
>
>

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