> BMC, are you out there?  Do you care?

FYI, there are several folks within BMC that watch ARSList and do note
these conversations.  I can't directly speak for the Support department
since I'm in R&D, but I do know that there was a strong representation
of Support at UserWorld and, from what I heard, the actions being either
taken or considered by Support to deal with customers satisfaction were
positively received. 

Many times, it is inappropriate to answer these kind of threads on a
public forum, which is why it may seem that many times there is just
silence.  If you have direct concerns, your best course of action is to
contact BMC directly so that they can respond in a more formal manner.

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-----Original Message-----
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ray Palla
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 2:06 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Company Dropping Remedy

How many of these will it take for BMC to put an ear to the ground for
QA and support?  I am aware of a French global organization that too is
preparing to discontinue future use of Remedy... A multi-million dollar
contract.  After more than 10 years of rapid development, Remedy is no
longer what it was originally designed to be.  

BMC, are you out there?  Do you care?

Best of Luck, everyone.

R

-----Original Message-----
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Burke
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 3:54 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Company Dropping Remedy

The company I work for is the same. Since we have upgrade to version 7.0
the partner we have support with has been less then co-operative and
every bug logged to BMC has been either ignored or we have been told
that it works as designed...even if it doesnt work. We cannot even
install patches to fix bugs as they corupt the system even further

We have millions invested and will be walking away for a local product
and after 12 years as one of the largest Remedy clients In Australia.

I dont see much future for Remedy with the current level of support

On 2/6/08, Susan Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> **
> We switched our Support to TuringSMI last October.  I had always been 
> a believer in using the support provided by the mother company.  But I

> couldn't stand it any more and was granted my dream for better support

> by BMC.  I could not be happier.  It is such a pleasure to talk to 
> knowledgeable support people that work WITH you.  They want to solve 
> the issue not just file it.  The time to resolve is great because now 
> there is actually a resolution.
>
> I too have heard there has been a subsequent crack down on who can get

> VAR support.  Start buying licenses and products from the VAR you're 
> interested in to establish a pre-existing connection.  Look for what 
> is unique about the VAR and then acquire those things which come with
support.
>
> Good luck ...
>
> Susan Palmer
> ShopperTrak
>
>
>
>
> On Feb 5, 2008 2:39 PM, Jay parker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > **
> >
> >
> >
> > Yes this is what we were told, by the VAR.
> >
> > ________________________________
>
> >
> > From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of remedy
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 12:23 PM
> >
> >
> >
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: Company Dropping Remedy
> >
> >
> >
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: Company Dropping Remedy
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > **
> >
> >
> > BMC has told the VARS that they it is not their intent to approve 
> > any
> further transfers of Support to the VARS.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Sounds like restraint of trade to me....
> >
> > LJ Longwing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > It was within the last few months/turn of the year timeframe...and 
> > as we
> all
> > know...you can't go to VAR without permission from mother BMC...so I

> > know
> it
> > was authorized by them...:)
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jay parker
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 11:18 AM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: Company Dropping Remedy
> >
> > How recent was your switch to GenerationE? We were looking to use a 
> > VAR
> but
> > were told that BMC recently put major restrictions on them. These 
> > restrictions basically eliminated the VARs form taking away existing

> > BMC Support customers.
> >
> > Thank you
> > Jay
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of LJ Longwing
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 10:44 AM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: Company Dropping Remedy
> >
> > Along those same lines, my company recently switched from BMC to
> GenerationE
> > and I have been very pleased with their front line support. Prior to

> > this experience I had never used a VAR and suffered through many of 
> > the same issues I see discussed on the list. I understand that my 
> > company saved money going with the VAR too....so if support cost and

> > lack of support are the two driving decisions to move off of 
> > Remedy...I would definitely recommend trying to shop some VAR's and 
> > see what they would be able to do for you.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Van Sickle
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 9:13 AM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: Company Dropping Remedy
> >
> > James
> >
> > Out of professional curiosity, has your company already decided on 
> > what their alternative product will be to Remedy? If this decision 
> > is not completely driven by price and still open to potentially 
> > saving Remedy,
> you
> > may wish to speak with Jorge Batista or Jay Shankar at BMC. They 
> > might be able to assist in resolving some of the issues that brought

> > your company's management team to their decision. Alternatively, you

> > might also want to talk to some vendors who offer third-party 
> > support
services for Remedy.
> > They might be able to offer Remedy Support at a lower cost than 
> > going directory through BMC, but I have never used such third-party 
> > support so I cannot say for certain. I believe companies like Column

> > IT, Strategic Technologies, and Xinify offer these services, but I 
> > am sure there are a several more whom I am not familiar with.
> >
> > If this is a done deal, good luck with the job hunt then.
> >
> > (Embedded image moved to file: pic03039.gif)Countrywide
> >
> >
> > James Van Sickle
> > Remedy Developer II
> > IT - Enterprise Change & Config
> >
> >
> >
> > 972-696-5779 Office 1000 Coit Road
> > 92-540- Internal Mail Stop: PCRD-2-78
> > 214-399-1254 Cell Plano, TX 75075
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > James Collins
> >
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > IL.COM>
> > To
> > Sent by: "Action [email protected]
> >
> > Request System
> > cc
> > discussion
> >
> > list(ARSList)"
> > Subject
> >
> >
> > ORG>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 02/05/2008 09:41
> >
> > AM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Please respond to
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > RG
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I found out last week that my company has decided to drop Remedy.
> > Through an analysis they found found it to expensive and the support

> > that they received since the BMC takeover as being not worth the 
> > costs
> associated
> > with it. I was a bit surprised; however, they plan on developing 
> > some new opportunities. I think Remedy has about one year with the 
> > company and that will be the last curtain after 10 years. I will 
> > still be around for a
> year,
> > but wanted to share that with the list.
> >
> > James
> >
> >
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> > It was within the last few months/turn of the year timeframe...and 
> > as we
> all
> > know...you can't go to VAR without permission from mother BMC...so I

> > know
> it
> > was authorized by them...:)
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jay parker
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 11:18 AM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: Company Dropping Remedy
> >
> > How recent was your switch to GenerationE? We were looking to use a 
> > VAR
> but
> > were told that BMC recently put major restrictions on them. These 
> > restrictions basically eliminated the VARs form taking away existing

> > BMC Support customers.
> >
> > Thank you
> > Jay
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of LJ Longwing
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 10:44 AM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: Company Dropping Remedy
> >
> > Along those same lines, my company recently switched from BMC to
> GenerationE
> > and I have been very pleased with their front line support. Prior to

> > this experience I had never used a VAR and suffered through many of 
> > the same issues I see discussed on the list. I understand that my 
> > company saved money going with the VAR too....so if support cost and

> > lack of support are the two driving decisions to move off of 
> > Remedy...I would definitely recommend trying to shop some VAR's and 
> > see what they would be able to do for you.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Van Sickle
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 9:13 AM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: Company Dropping Remedy
> >
> > James
> >
> > Out of professional curiosity, has your company already decided on 
> > what their alternative product will be to Remedy? If this decision 
> > is not completely driven by price and still open to potentially 
> > saving Remedy,
> you
> > may wish to speak with Jorge Batista or Jay Shankar at BMC. They 
> > might be able to assist in resolving some of the issues that brought

> > your company's management team to their decision. Alternatively, you

> > might also want to talk to some vendors who offer third-party 
> > support
services for Remedy.
> > They might be able to offer Remedy Support at a lower cost than 
> > going directory through BMC, but I have never used such third-party 
> > support so I cannot say for certain. I believe companies like Column

> > IT, Strategic Technologies, and Xinify offer these services, but I 
> > am sure there are a several more whom I am not familiar with.
> >
> > If this is a done deal, good luck with the job hunt then.
> >
> > (Embedded image moved to file: pic03039.gif)Countrywide
> >
> >
> > James Van Sickle
> > Remedy Developer II
> > IT - Enterprise Change & Config
> >
> >
> >
> > 972-696-5779 Office 1000 Coit Road
> > 92-540- Internal Mail Stop: PCRD-2-78
> > 214-399-1254 Cell Plano, TX 75075
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > James Collins
> >
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > IL.COM>
> > To
> > Sent by: "Action [email protected]
> >
> > Request System
> > cc
> > discussion
> >
> > list(ARSList)"
> > Subject
> >
> >
> > ORG>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 02/05/2008 09:41
> >
> > AM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Please respond to
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > RG
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I found out last week that my company has decided to drop Remedy.
> > Through an analysis they found found it to expensive and the support

> > that they received since the BMC takeover as being not worth the 
> > costs
> associated
> > with it. I was a bit surprised; however, they plan on developing 
> > some new opportunities. I think Remedy has about one year with the 
> > company and that will be the last curtain after 10 years. I will 
> > still be around for a
> year,
> > but wanted to share that with the list.
> >
> > James
> >
> >
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