(BTW - I hope you see my comments as fun/entertaining -- and hopefully
enlightening, I am not out to offend)

If you saw a train wreck coming - and somebody said -- please ignore --
would you/should you?

I live this stuff - I love this stuff - I can't sit idly by and watch it
happen.

Especially when - the only thing holding somebody back - is a questionable
policy :)

A good (consultant/employee/human) fights for what is right - always.

Against the tide, against the policy, etc…

Truth always wins.

(Now - are we sure the earth is round? even the Catholic Church can change
fundamental opinions)

-John


On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 7:56 PM, Pat Zandi <[email protected]> wrote:

> **
> I knew you could not pass even if I ask you not too..... ;-)
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 16, 2012, at 20:50, John Sundberg <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> **
> Patrick,
>
>
> You are right - nobody wants another tool.
>
> Heck, I don't want another tool.
>
> But thankfully - business can see past that restriction, or else, I am
> afraid - we would all be using Microsoft Excel to manage Incidents,
> Changes, CMDB, Word processing, etc...
>
> So - given the right info and education - business does see past the one
> tool approach.
>
> So - I would propose to your boss --
>
> Instead of asking - "Would you like another tool?"
>
> Instead say:
>
> How would you like to:
> - minimize our changes to Remedy
> - simplify our future upgrades
> - build new forms and processes in "business time" not "IT time"
> - minimize the risk introduced to the system when releasing new
> forms/processes
> - minimize the risk introduced to the system when changing forms/processes
> - minimize training across the company to use the Request system
> - minimize the training across IT to fulfill requests
> - minimize license cost yet maximize existing investments
> - drive fulfillment across the enterprise in real-time
> - leverage open strategies for display
> - leverage open strategies for fulfillment
> - use the request management system from your mobile - without buying more
> tools
>
> the list goes on...
>
> Also - throw in Kinetic Request won the award for "Most innovative product
> at WWRUG" and then followed it up with "Best support" in the following year.
>
> So -- propose that to your boss -- one tool vs (my list). A wise manager
> would look into their options.
>
> Unwise managers bury their head in poor policy.
>
> We have:
> The best product
> The most open product
> The best licensing
> The best price
> The best support
>
> What else would you want?
>
> (Now - back to March Madness)
>
> -John
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 6:07 PM, patrick zandi <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> ** KSR is indeed good, but client does not want another product.
>> Which is to our benefit cause work is work...
>> but I digress .. back to anyone find a little easier method, then just
>> creating carpel tunnel,
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 6:52 PM, Rick Sharp <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>> ** **
>>> I am not employed by Kinetic...but I will say that KSR is more flexible
>>> then SRM. Do a simple ROI for your Sr Mgt and with a fair $$ investment and
>>> forethought, you will have a sustainable solution.
>>>
>>> As they say Patrick-"pay for it now, or pay for it later"
>>>
>>> Shareable with some op cos: yes
>>>
>>> Future: don't ponder, act smartly--KSR
>>>
>>> Short Term solution: control the change until....
>>> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
>>> ------------------------------
>>> *From: * patrick zandi <[email protected]>
>>> *Sender: * "Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)" <
>>> [email protected]>
>>> *Date: *Fri, 16 Mar 2012 16:32:48 -0400
>>> *To: *<[email protected]>
>>> *ReplyTo: * [email protected]
>>> *Subject: *SRM -- just asking ---for the impossible.
>>>
>>> ** So you have Multi-tenecy and you have multiple companies..
>>> and you have multiple requests...
>>>
>>> Boss says:: I need you to add a field to 4 or the 10 companies forms,
>>> and that should be easy right ?
>>> Remedy teams says...: see you in a month..
>>> Why? you are now manipulating 800 SRM's AOT, PDT's..
>>>
>>> Question: is there a management tool, that BMC has to allow a field to
>>> be created and mapped easily to many ? and do all the data manipulation,
>>> without a 12 min admin per: (none that we know of)
>>>
>>> Question: is there some other free tool out there that can do it?
>>>
>>> would not this be a good idea to have?
>>>
>>> Also:: the ability to make 1 SRM, AOT, PDT, Q&A and share it with SOME
>>> companies, not ALL companies..  Nope.. again..  Global only otherwise
>>> manually granular specific.
>>> Each has to be specific..
>>>
>>> Now we are up to some 1350 SRM's, and it appears we shall soon be at
>>> 2500 SRM's.. Appears to be growing quickly.. BMC (we can't prevent change,
>>> but we can adapt motto -- Where is that? again)
>>>
>>> not complaining, just wondering, pondering..  about future.. OF....SRM
>>> .. PLEASE..
>>>
>>> I do not want to hear from Kinetic, I know, I know..
>>>
>>> --
>>> Patrick Zandi
>>> _attend WWRUG12 www.wwrug.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"_
>>> _attend WWRUG12 www.wwrug.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"_
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Patrick Zandi
>> _attend WWRUG12 www.wwrug.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"_
>>
>
>
>
> --
>
> *John Sundberg*
> Kinetic Data, Inc.
> "Your Business. Your Process."
> *Recipient of:
> **WWRUG10 Best Customer Service/Support Award*
> *WWRUG09 Innovator of the Year Award*
> *
> *
> 651-556-0930 I [email protected]
>  www.kineticdata.com I community.kineticdata.com
>
>
>
> _attend WWRUG12 www.wwrug.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"_
>
> _attend WWRUG12 www.wwrug.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"_
>



-- 

*John Sundberg*
Kinetic Data, Inc.
"Your Business. Your Process."
*Recipient of:
**WWRUG10 Best Customer Service/Support Award*
*WWRUG09 Innovator of the Year Award*
*
*
651-556-0930 I [email protected]
www.kineticdata.com I community.kineticdata.com

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