Process Designer has huge potential.
It might not have got enough coverage - but that's something that will get 
built over the period of time and the tool maturity will grow in the same 
manner.

One can define and orchestrate the process - for external integration, you can 
define a custom interface form - create/update it based on the process - filter 
plugin / web service part can full fill.

-Raj

From: Pierson, Shawn-3 [via ARS (Action Request System)] 
[mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2014 23:49
To: Hiremath, Rajashekhar
Subject: Re: ITSM Process Designer on 8.1

I'll take a look at that again.  I assumed it was built in such a way that it 
wouldn't be useful if you used other systems for part of the process, such as 
SAP for purchasing, but it's worth a revisit.

Thanks,

Shawn Pierson
Remedy Developer | Energy Transfer


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From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[hidden 
email]</user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=115858&i=0>] On Behalf Of Carl Wilson
Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2014 11:43 AM
To: [hidden email]</user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=115858&i=1>
Subject: Re: ITSM Process Designer on 8.1

Hi Shawn,
8.x.x versions of SRM come with a custom AIF provided by BMC for Hardware and 
Software ordering.  This interacts with the sub components including Purchasing 
and Requisition, Licensing, etc.

This may take your headache away:

https://docs.bmc.com/docs/display/public/srm81/Overview+of+the+Product+Ordering+feature


Jesus:

Currently, there are issues in PD with looping and restarting tasks e.g. if a 
Task (PD Task) is bypassed, and it is creating a fulfilment Task (TMS:Task) 
then the bypassed Tasks are not closed and therefore you cannot close the 
fulfilment request (based on the Rules).  Approvals are singular and not 
dynamic ... etc.
There were hot fixes available for 8.3.3 to correct this and other behaivour, 
but I have been told that these are not in the 8.3.4 release - therefore if you 
had these and upgraded then you are going backwards until they are ported to 
the 8.3.4 version.


Kind Regards,

Carl Wilson

http://www.missingpiecessoftware.com/

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email]</user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=115858&i=2>] On Behalf Of Pierson, 
Shawn
Sent: 25 February 2014 17:18
To: [hidden email]</user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=115858&i=3>
Subject: Re: ITSM Process Designer on 8.1

This sounds interesting.  So for your request workflow that require approvals, 
loops, nested processes, etc. do you have a working prototype in Process 
Designer yet?  For my SRM plans, I am a fan of ARS development but I try to 
avoid building AIFs because they shouldn't be necessary.  I'm not entirely 
sure, but one of the more complicated ones I have is a software request process 
that I'm going to try to rebuild in some way in 8.1.  This one basically does 
several lookups on places like the Product Catalog, License Certificates, 
Computer Systems, etc. to determine if licenses are available and direct the 
request down the right process flow (using Task Groups) depending on license 
availability and a few other factors.  If I can't rebuild this process in ITSM 
as it is without using an AIF, I may investigate Process Designer but I'd 
probably stand up a new development system just to isolate it and avoid risking 
corruption of a system used by anyone else.

Thanks,

Shawn Pierson
Remedy Developer | Energy Transfer

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email]</user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=115858&i=4>] On Behalf Of Jamie
Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2014 10:41 AM
To: [hidden email]</user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=115858&i=5>
Subject: Re: ITSM Process Designer on 8.1

We ran into an error when trying to install ITSM Process Designer on 8.1 
because an error indicated that 8.3.3 was not compatible with 8.1 Patch 2.  
After opening a ticket with BMC, they provided me with a defect SW00460401 
along with a hotfix that I put in place and was able to get around the pop up 
error message in my install.

As for using Process Designer, we are planning on using this instead of 
creating AOTs and PDTs just because it seems like it will be easier and quick 
to develop using the process designer than creating a bunch of AOTs and PDTs.  
Additionally, the ability to put in approvals or do other things such as loops 
and nested processes are something else that is needed for our organization.  
We are just beginning building out our SRDs and Processes, so I guess time will 
tell on how well it goes; but I see process designer being the future of 
building the processes in SRM...or at least I hope :)

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