Dear all,

I quote form http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jus_so

Jus soli (Latin for "right of the soil" or, somewhat figuratively, "right of 
the territory"), or birthright citizenship, is a right by which nationality or 
citizenship can be recognised to any individual born in the territory of the 
related state. At the turn of the nineteenth century, nation-states commonly 
divided themselves between those granting nationality on the grounds of jus 
soli (France, for example) and those granting it on the grounds of jus 
sanguinis (right of blood) (Germany, for example). However, most European 
countries chose the German conception of an "objective nationality", based on 
blood, race or language (as in Fichte's classical definition of a nation), 
opposing themselves to republican Ernest Renan's "subjective nationality", 
based on an every-day plebiscite of one's appurtenance to his Fatherland. This 
non-essentialist conception of nationality allowed the implementation of jus 
soli, against the essentialist jus sanguinis.
 However, today's massive increase of refugees has somewhat blurred the lines 
between these two antagonistic sources of right.
Countries that have acceded to the 1961 Convention on the Reduction of 
Statelessness will grant nationality to otherwise stateless persons who were 
born on
their territory, or on a ship or plane flagged by the country.

India has signed this Convention on 29 June 1995. So, In this situation I dont 
know if amendment is possible in the line suggested by Kuladip, but yes, a 
debate can be initiated.

Best regards
anjuman




----- Original Message ----
From: kuladip baro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, 4 August, 2008 12:43:44 AM
Subject: [asom] Deportation of Bangladeshi


Dear Deep,

you have raised the most important issue about Bangladeshi deportation. it is 
true that we have to be happy & content by deporting only the likes of Mr. 
Kamaruddin!! !

Kmaruddind is expelled but he has left us a burden of 6 chidlrens (as per News 
reports).... ..6 more votes from the Bangladeshi immigrant community after 
about 10-12 years!!!

think of such Kamaruddins still on the large....... may be few lacs if not 
millions!! than guess the burden ( and danger of Bangladeshi inclined votes) 
they have produced! it might be in millions!!!!
This situation is prevailing due to the Citizenship act -1956 by dint of which 
the childrens of the likes of Kamaruddin become indians by Birth. although the 
act is similar to the same types of acts of the civilised nations of the world 
it actually is Gross INJUSTICE to the indegeneous people of the Bangladeshi 
INFESTED places like Assam. This act is clearing the path for destruction of 
the Indegeneous people of Assam. This type of act is only usefull for the 
CIVILISED nations of the Europe and other handfull nations like USA, Canada, 
Australia etc. and not usefull at all to deal with the VIRUS like Bangladeshi 
Immigrants.

i dont know whether this problem is taken care of in the Assam accord or not. 
if not , the situation will become worse even after implementing the accord 
fully.

I would like to know if the act can be ammended so that AT LEAST , childrens 
born to post 25/03/1971 illegal Bangladeshi immigrants can also be deported.

after all, Law/Act is made by humans for the smooth functioning of the society. 
not for endengering one section of it. So, LOGICALLY, the Act can be ammended 
to safeguard the Indegeneous of Assam. (i think, ONLY THE LAW OF NATURE  i.e.. 
PHYSICS&CHEMISTRY  REMAINS INTACT).

also, if the Act can't be ammended for the whole of India it must be ammended 
as a special case for Assam.. (Now, someone dont ask why as a special case for 
Assam? if IMDT could be enacted the said Ammendment also can be done.).

i think , we indegeneous people should think as above and also act promptly.

-Kuladip


--- On Sun, 8/3/08, Mr. Native Assamese <deep_black1@ yahoo.co. in> wrote:

From: Mr. Native Assamese <deep_black1@ yahoo.co. in>
Subject: [asom] Deportation of Bangladeshi
To: assamonline@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Sunday, August 3, 2008, 1:59 PM

Dear Sirs/Madams,

There was a news that, The identified Bangladeshi Mr. Kamaruddin of Jomunamukh 
was arrested and being sent to Bangladesh. But the Wife and Childrens of 
Kamaruddin are allowed to stay in India. I dont understand, if the Father is 
illegal Bangladeshi how the Childrens can be citizens of India.

if it is so, how many Bangladeshis out of the about 50 lacs we will be able to 
expell?

Deep Bora
Jorhat

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