Just want to mention, how are you planning on hitting the non-line of site 
locations?
If there is an existing wireless network in the area, might be better to 
utilize their services instead.

The only thing I can say about non-licensed spectrum is that it is crowded... 
unless you have very exacting equipment, you might run into issues.

Having said that, I find Wifi rather unreliable... if you are sticking devices 
up on a pole or a location that is hard to get to, you might want to consider a 
more commercial produce with purpose built management tools, etc...

Chuck

-----Original Message-----
From: Bruce N [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: May-31-12 10:58 AM
To: James Knott
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [on-asterisk] Is it possible to do point to point wireless in a 
30km distance?

Amazing info everyone. I can't thank you enough as to how much time you saved 
me. I will go over all the links and start my readings. In the meanwhile I have 
the following questions:

- So, something in the order to 10 Mbps "full duplex" or whatever the term is 
for "both ways" should be very easily achievable using the equipments mentioned?
- Has anyone tested this for telephony application?
- How is the round trip delay usually?
- Does very cold or hot weather have an effect on the operation? rain or 
thunder? (e.g. degraded bandwidth or lots of errors in packets?) , has anyone 
had the issue of directed "intentional" interference or other types of 
interference which would make this connection any less solid than a DSL or 
Rogers cable on daily or weekly basis?
- What about NLOS solutions? Are there any viable product for that as well?
Obstacles could be tree or buildings.

Thanks again,
Bruce


On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 10:19 AM, James Knott <[email protected]>wrote:

> That price is in the same ball park as Ceragon.  The Ceragon gear I've 
> worked with has lower bandwidth, but greater range. (18 Mb/s @ 35 Km 
> IIRC)
>
>
> Mike - QTI wrote:
>
>> Phil,
>>
>> Thanks for the info on Ubiquiti .
>>
>> Seems they have a great bunch of engineers ( who worked on the 
>> Motorola Canopy system ). The AirFibre looks awesome. 1500 for both 
>> ends (
>> http://www.ubnt.com/store/**airfiber/airfiber_24<http://www.ubnt.com/store/airfiber/airfiber_24>)
>>  and 1.4 Gbps over 13+km. Just need an available date.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
>> On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 7:27 AM, James Knott <[email protected]<mailto:
>> [email protected]**>> wrote:
>>
>>    Reza - Voipernetics wrote:
>>
>>        I know of members in TAUG - who has achieved two way
>>        communication with clear line of site, using nothing but off
>>        the shelf Linksys routers and dish antemma's - having achieved
>>        80+ KM range.   Their only complaint was its was a royal pain
>>        the the behind, to aim properly.    Basic geometry and the
>>        assistance of GPS equipment and measurements got the antenna's
>>        to be aligned on a clear line of sight.  What I've been told
>>        is the margin of error with the consumer dish antennas is a
>>        mere 3 degrees conical beam.
>>
>>
>>    While it may be possible to do this with consumer level gear, one
>>    has to look at the whole picture?  Is this for a business?  If so,
>>    it may be better to go with equipment designed for the job, rather
>>    than going for lowest cost.  I had mentioned to brands of
>>    microwave hardware that are designed for this sort of task.  They
>>    are physically much more rugged than consumer gear, so as to stand
>>    up to wind etc.  They also have significant protection against
>>    lightning induced surges.  While it may be OK to go cheap for
>>    personal use, when you have business use and potential liability
>>    on the line, going cheap may be the wrong way to go.
>>
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