Re: [Aus-soaring] When (or what) is an aerodrome..... ?

[Peter Stephenson]

At the first briefing for NAS 2C,  "Mandatory recommended" (oxymoron) was used and members of RAPAC around the country protested successfully.  Subsequent briefings "mandatory" was dropped but they are certainly NOT optional.  You are expected to use these calls and if you do not, you will be expected to explain why not. FULL STOP.   PeterS Peter C. Stephenson RAPAC Qld. South Convenor Gliding Qld. RAPAC (Qld.South) 07 3886 6889 Fax: 07 3886 6129   ----- Original Message ----- From: Christopher H Thorpe To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 9:15 PM Subject: RE: [Aus-soaring] When (or what) is an aerodrome..... ? True, ERSA will prevail – but in the absence of such published “local” broadcast procedures the expectation remains.  It is not correct to imply the new procedures are optional.   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Roger Druce Sent: Tuesday, 6 December 2005 9:35 PM To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Subject: RE: [Aus-soaring] When (or what) is an aerodrome..... ?   Chris I think you are not quite correct to suggest that whilst the calls are "recommendations but they are not optional - pilots are expected to make all the calls".   The issued guide booklet says: "ERSA PREVAILS" "The new procedures however will not override any local procedures detailed in the En-Route Supplement Australia (ERSA)."   Accordingly local procedures as advised via ERSA could state that only certain of the calls be made on the basis of the necessity to reduce radio call congestion.   Roger Druce   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christopher H Thorpe Sent: Tuesday, 6 December 2005 8:39 PM To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Subject: RE: [Aus-soaring] When (or what) is an aerodrome..... ? They might be recommendations but they’re not optional - pilots are expected to make all of the broadcasts.  However, pilots must maintain their priorities to “aviate, navigate and communicate” - in that order, so if it is not convenient to make a radio broadcast, then don’t do it.  No one should allow themselves to lose situational awareness and control of the aircraft because they let themselves become preoccupied with making a radio call.  By the way, this aspect is covered in the new regulations although not in as many words!   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of J Hudson Sent: Tuesday, 6 December 2005 8:22 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] When (or what) is an aerodrome..... ?   As both a glider pilot and a power pilot, (in respect of the new procedures) it seems to me that some glider pilots are getting concerned about nothing.    Most of the new procedures are RECOMMENDATIONS, (the must do bits include the likes of straight in approaches, CTAF(R) etc).   If you dont want to make the calls, don't make them.   In the ideal world, power pilots would listen out on 122.5, 122.7, 122.9, the relevant Area Frequency, Unicom Frequency and CTAF frequency and glider pilots would do the same - but the worlds not ideal. It seems easier to me - and considerably more responsible - for us all to listen to and occasionally broadcast on the CTAF. Surely its better to know others are in or near the airspace you are using. At least consider making some of the calls.   The definition of whats leagally an aerodrome seems irrelevant.   John Hudson  _______________________________________________ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring

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