The list looks to be clogged, none of the recent messages are getting through (so I added a few cc's in the hope that at least one of you can find out what is going on) - or I would have replied to my own message on this thread... (but I haven't seen it yet, and I don't keep copies)
Off list Mark pointed out that (in my words, not his) I was being rather cavalier in the way I used "token" in my earlier message - and he's right, I was. kre
