http://www.savagelook.com/3ds_test/sandbox.html

thats a link to the exact code I'm using with a right click "view
source" available.  Interestingly enough, I seemed to get a good
performance increase just loading it outside of Flex.  I wasn't
running it in debug mode or anything, but when I ran it through Flex I
got about 15 FPS, now I'm getting 22 FPS loaded on my site.  In any
case, is 22-23 FPS on average about what I could expect from code and
a model that simple?  just want to know if there's something I could
be doing to make it faster.

On Jun 8, 9:25 pm, Peter Kapelyan <[email protected]> wrote:
> Depends on your stage size also, not all slow performance is directly
> related to away3d, but it can be simple flash limitations itself.
>
> Also lots of code may be slowing it down. Sorry if it seems like I am
> shooting in the dark, but without any examples, assets and code it's hard to
> tell what's going on.
>
> -Pete
>
> On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 3:42 PM, savagelook 
> <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "I loaded a 3DS model with about
> > 2800 faces (~1800 rendered at any given time) and when I try to move
> > it at all (rotate in the render event) the frame rate drops into the
> > single digits.  I was hoping a different format would help. "
>
> > I was hoping someone could comment on this.  I was under the
> > impression that away3d should be able to reasonably handle up to about
> > 10K faces.  I would think 2800, and only 1800 rendered, should be no
> > problem and not drive my FPS below 10.  I can post my full code later,
> > but for reference now, it is a very basic example with stage quality
> > set to low, no lighting, no background, and the only motion/object in
> > the scene is the model being rotated in the render loop.
>
> > Would a different model format other than 3DS potentially operate
> > faster?  Are there other things I can do to increase performance?
> > Please don't say "decrease polycount" because I thought that this
> > polycount should be easy for away3d.
>
> > On Jun 8, 11:03 am, Fabrice3D <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > well, point is that I choose to add/fix and release instead of waiting
> > months.
> > > this ensures an evolution of the app sync with the away engine.
> > > Even if a Prefab running 3.5 is not fully done yet simply because Prefab
> > = my free time.
> > > So basically the app evolves, sometimes with loads of new features
> > sometimes more internals
> > > as the last version. Its an ungoing process.
>
> > > > I thought I read one time that certain model formats perform better
> > > > than others?  Is that not true?
>
> > > well, yes and no, Prefab doesn't load and play only, its eliminating
> > unwanted stuff
> > > and simplifiying your data, depending on your editor and how you have
> > exported.
> > > so in some cases you indeed get a speed boost next to the garantied speed
> > boost during parsing
> > > and the lack of extra code required to visualise the data.
> > > The speed boost you would get is simply because if you use the tool
> > properly, the generated data
> > > is optimized for Away and would require less Ram. (excepted for Lite,
> > where weld as no influence as Lite doesn't support yet shared vertices)
> > > But Prefab is no IPad, its not magical. What comes in can be enhanced,
> > but it will not generate new 3D content for you.
>
> > > > I think a video or 2 walking you through the basics would do a lot to
> > increase its user base,
>
> > >http://www.youtube.com/fabrice3d
>
> > > another problem with vids or tuts, if you look at oldest one, the
> > interface has changed quite a lot...
>
> > > Fabrice
>
> > > On Jun 8, 2010, at 4:49 PM, savagelook wrote:
>
> > > > I thought I read one time that certain model formats perform better
> > > > than others?  Is that not true?  Would an AWD not perform better than
> > > > a 3DS model?  I'm concerned because I loaded a 3DS model with about
> > > > 2800 faces (~1800 rendered at any given time) and when I try to move
> > > > it at all (rotate in the render event) the frame rate drops into the
> > > > single digits.  I was hoping a different format would help.
>
> > > > I guess I have been looking at prefab as an away3d exporter rather
> > > > than a full modeling tool.  Again, I don't want to come down on a
> > > > great piece of software, but I can barely figure out how to use it,
> > > > much less do all my texture baking/mapping and such in it. I would
> > > > love to be able to use it as I am focusing my efforts solely on away3d
> > > > and there's no better fit than prefab, I just can't seem to get my
> > > > head wrapped around the interface.  Maybe I just need more tinkering,
> > > > but I think a video or 2 walking you through the basics would do a lot
> > > > to increase its user base, and in turn increase feedback and real life
> > > > applications using it.
>
> > > > On Jun 8, 10:28 am, Fabrice3D <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > >>> - For max performance in away3d, should I be using AS3 classes or
> > AWDs
> > > >>> for representing models?
>
> > > >> its not about performance, except both are parsed the fastest.
> > > >> awd supports Away data only. so no crap you don't need.
> > > >> as3 of course is super easy to use and prevents the loading blues.
>
> > > >>> - If so, what are the limitations of these formats?  Do they have
> > animation?
>
> > > >> I feel like an old LP:... No, not yet.
>
> > > >>> s there a prefab tutorial somewhere, or someone who wants to be an
> > > >>> angel and help me get started?  No offense to fabrice because the
> > > >>> feature set is incredible and I really look forward to prefab
> > speeding
> > > >>> my workflow, but right now I don't find it very intuitive and have a
> > > >>> hard time getting anything done in it.  I would love to reciprocate
> > by
> > > >>> making tutorials as I learn.
>
> > > >> Prefab will help you more or less, depending on the way you work and
> > the tools you use.
> > > >> Otherwize it will become just an exporter to Away.
>
> > > >> tutorials... mmm, guilty!
> > > >> I do try make vids sometimes, but when I finally get a window to work
> > on Prefab, what should I do?
> > > >> work on the app or use that time to build a vid, a better site, tuts,
> > articles...
> > > >> From my point of view, and fire at me if not true, I have not the
> > feeling the app is hard to understand or to be used.
>
> > > >> Away to AwayLite
> > > >> It all depends on what you're using Away for.
> > > >> but its not called Lite for nothing...
>
> > > >> Fabrice
>
> > > >> On Jun 8, 2010, at 3:55 PM, savagelook wrote:
>
> > > >>> like I mentioned in another post, I'm getting ready to start on a
> > > >>> large project and I'm trying to start down the right path.  There's a
> > > >>> few things I'd like to be clear about.  Feel free for any of these
> > > >>> points to tell me to RTFM and point me to a link if there is
> > > >>> documentation to reference.
>
> > > >>> - For max performance in away3d, should I be using AS3 classes or
> > AWDs
> > > >>> for representing models?
> > > >>> - If so, what are the limitations of these formats?  Do they have
> > > >>> animation?
> > > >>> - Is there a prefab tutorial somewhere, or someone who wants to be an
> > > >>> angel and help me get started?  No offense to fabrice because the
> > > >>> feature set is incredible and I really look forward to prefab
> > speeding
> > > >>> my workflow, but right now I don't find it very intuitive and have a
> > > >>> hard time getting anything done in it.  I would love to reciprocate
> > by
> > > >>> making tutorials as I learn.
> > > >>> - What are the major features I take for granted that might be
> > missing
> > > >>> if I switched to away3dLite?  What were the things that caught you
> > off
> > > >>> guard when you switched to lite?
>
> > > >>> I'm sure I'll come up with more, but this is a good place to start.
> > > >>> Thanks for any feedback.
>
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