Aaron, which child do you descend from? Thanks for the records on Maria da Costa. Her husband died 5 days after they married? How sad!
Eliseu, thank you for the new information you provided. Tonight, I printed out the first two generations of Miguel do Monte and his myriad of wives. I am going to go through and check each baptismal to see who the parents are and where they claim to be from. As I said early Joze Furtado's parents, Miguel do Monte and Thereza Furtado, are reported as being from Achada. I looked up Andre do Monte born 1722 son of Miguel do Monte of Achadinha and Maria Furtado of Achada; and Miguel do Monte born 1734 son of Miguel do Monte of Achadinha and Maria da Costa of Nordestinho. This what I am beginning to think. I think Miguel do Monte I married 3 times to Maria Furtada, Maria da Costa, and Thereza Furtado. I think the marriage in Faial de Terra is his. Then I think I have too many sons name Miguel do Monte. Unless I find a baptismal for Miguel do Monte born to Thereza Furtado ca 1720, I will assume I added this extra Miguel do Monte in error. If I eliminate him, then I think the parents of my Joze Furtado who married Antonia Pimentel, is the son of Miguel do Monte I and Maria Furtada. Given the death records that I found in the 1800s, I believe this Miguel do Monte also married someone named Thereza Furtada, both of them of Achada. The ages point to this Migeul do Monte. I think this is the Miguel do Monte that John wrote of born in 1734 to Miguel do Monte I and Maria da Costa. If there was no Miguel do Monte born to the first marriage, then there is no way the Miguel do Monte born in 1734 could have married in 1744. Where their marriage is, I am not sure. Of course, we might find some record that completely screws up my hypothesis. LOL Anyway, that is my thinking at this point. Does it sound plausible? On Thursday, June 5, 2014 8:55:15 PM UTC-7, Aaron Pereira wrote: > > > On Thursday, June 5, 2014 8:45:15 PM UTC-7, Aaron Pereira wrote: >> >> Hello, >> > > Also, Miguel de Monte and Maria da Costa are my 7th great grandparents. > Not that it matters regarding record research, because I've actually > learned so much about them from this topic post. Some information I was > aware of, and some I was not. > >> >> > >> Hello, >> Here is Maria da Costa's first marriage; she is from Sao Pedro, >> Nordestinho. >> >> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-ND-NORDESTINHO-C-1700-1746/SMG-ND-NORDESTINHO-C-1700-1746_item1/P113.html >> >> Her husband, Manuel Jacome Rapozo, died 5 days later...here is his obito >> >> 2ND RECORD FROM THE TOP OF THE LEFT PAGE >> >> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-ND-NORDESTINHO-O-1683-1738/SMG-ND-NORDESTINHO-O-1683-1738_item1/P87.html >> >> >> >> On Tuesday, June 3, 2014 6:34:08 PM UTC-7, IslandRoutes wrote: >> >>> John, >>> Okay, looks like I need to put my current marriage project aside to see >>> if I can figure out the do Monte's. I'm just walking through this so bear >>> with me. The baptismal you linked to for Miguel do Monte is from 1734 >>> (correct?). He is son of Miguel do Monte of Achadinha and Maria da Costa >>> of Sao Pedro, Ribeira Grande. I have this Miguel do Monte but I don't have >>> a marriage for him >>> >>> Let me ask this. You mentioned in your other email that Miguel do Monte >>> had 3 marriages. Is the first one to Maria Furtada? Is it Maria Furtada, >>> Maria da Costa, then Thereza Furtada? It would be a lot easier if they >>> threw in a Pulcheria or Agueda or anything but Maria and Thereza! LOL >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Mel >>> >>> On Tuesday, June 3, 2014 6:00:17 PM UTC-7, JR wrote: >>>> >>>> Yes the line of Miguel do Monte is problematic. You may be able to >>>> resolve it by looking for some obitos and marriages. In fact, I have >>>> fifteen children from 1745 to 1775, for Miguel and Teresa, so this may be >>>> another Miguel do Monte. But the plot thickens: I am attaching the link to >>>> the baptism of Rosa Pimentel in 1799. I chose this record because I knew >>>> this period would list the grandparents. The grandparents of Rosa Pimentel >>>> filha de Jose Furtado (born Sept 30 1767) and Antonia de Pimentel are >>>> clearly recorded as Miguel do Monte and Theresa Furtada. This is 23 years >>>> after they married. I suggest looking circa 1754-1762 forward for another >>>> Miguel do Monte, who is probably the son of MIguel and his second wife, >>>> Maria da Costa, born April 30, 1734 in Achada. If there is a second Miguel >>>> Monte, he may have married in Achadinha, where his father and grandparents >>>> are from. >>>> >>>> JR >>>> >>>> On Tuesday, June 3, 2014 5:16:15 PM UTC-4, IslandRoutes wrote: >>>>> >>>>> John, >>>>> I think you might have the answers I need. Dan sent me the marriage >>>>> record in Faial de Terra for Miguel do Monte who married Thereza Furtado. >>>>> >>>>> Is this the person who is the father of Joze Furtado who married Antonia >>>>> Pimentel in Achada 20 may 1791? Is this the Miguel do Monte who married >>>>> 3 >>>>> times? If so, I've got something linked up incorrectly. I have that >>>>> Miguel do Monte as the son of Miguel do Monte Sr. (we'll call him Sr. >>>>> just >>>>> to keep this straight) and Maria Furtada. But I have Miguel Sr's first >>>>> wife as Maria Furtada and 2nd wife as Maria da Costa. Have I somehow >>>>> thrown in an extra Miguel do Monte? I don't believe this Miguel do Monte >>>>> could have been the father of Joze Furtado as he was born in 1767, >>>>> Achada. >>>>> Miguel Sr. should have been dead by then. >>>>> >>>>> I think what I've done is misread the notes given to me and I've split >>>>> the marriages between two Miguel do Monte's. >>>>> >>>>> Hope you can help me sort this out. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks >>>>> Mel >>>>> >>>>> On Tuesday, June 3, 2014 1:43:36 PM UTC-7, JR wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> That's right, Miguel do monte married three times and had quite a few >>>>>> children. >>>>>> >>>>>> JR >>>>>> >>>>> -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. 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