>> So what is the time frame on a cross platform version? A week, A month, 2 months, shouldn't be any more than that at most unless iPlayer was not written well. Anyone CS graduate knows how to do platform independent coding, somebody at the BBC must know how to do it.
<snip patronising hints> >> That's pretty much the basics the rest is common sense really. Andy, it would probably also be common sense to read around on the topic before insulting the majority of the BBC developers who frequent this list. It is the requirement to have time-windowed DRM implementation, not the ability to write cross-platform code, that is the issue. See the response to Vijay's FOI request earlier in this list: "At the time, the only two solutions deployed at scale on the internet were Microsoft's DRM, and Apple's Fairplay DRM. Fairplay did not include the ability to expire content, and therefore could not meet the minimum requirements for our rights at all." http://vjchopra.googlepages.com/RFI2007000558-finalresponse.pdf And this from the BBC Trust in April, which envisages a much longer timeframe than your suggestion "The Trust has noted the strong public demand for platform neutrality and is concerned to ensure that the BBC meets this demand as soon as possible. The Trust acknowledges the BBC's commitment to platform neutrality and has taken account of the Executive's response that a two year deadline is unworkable because success is dependent on third parties outside of the BBC's control. However, in the interest of those members of the public who will be disadvantaged until this matter is resolved, the Trust will audit the BBC's progress against this objective every six months and publish its findings." cheers, martin On 28/07/07, Christopher Woods <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Problem's not fixed. > > Suggested a solution (a checkbox or some other on/off switch mechanism, off > by default, to enable background transfers only whilst main application is > open) - given that I don't fully understand every single way in which > Kontiki works (although I've wrestled with it as a user for quite some time > even before 4OD) I'm somewhat certain it's doable. > > I'm having real issues with (ironically) installs of Kontiki-using apps - > 4OD's refusing to go away even though it's uninstalled (some remnants of the > interface chrome are left) so it likes to appear in the taskbar, as does the > BBC Film Network download trial client - even though iPlayer is the only one > deliberately loading at startup! Ho hum :D Lots of people are going to have > SO many problems with SkyByBroadband (sorry, Sky Anytime) and iPlayer, it's > almost not funny. I understand why they chose an 0870 number for their > telephone support (granted, they'd be snowed under with all kinds of > relevant and irrelevant requests if they had an 0121 or 0800! And I suppose > it is fair that the service pays for itself instead of be yet another thing > which comes out of the license fee, meaning everybody pays but only a few > use). > > Right, breakfast. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: 28 July 2007 14:24 > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [backstage] iPlayer Today? > > > > On 28/07/07, mike chamberlain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I'd guess it's because Bittorrent gets traffic shaped out > > of existance > > > on a lot of ISP's. > > > > Once ISP's see how much traffic Kontiki generates they won't > > traffic shape it? > > Could always use encrypted bit torrent. > > > > I would imagine an ISP would prefer Bit Torrent to Kontiki, > > Bit Torrent stops transmitting if you close the application > > down. Kontiki keeps running as a process, hidden from the > > task bar. You have to go into Task Manager to get rid of it. > > > > Read the 4OD forums, last time I did most posts where > > warnings about how bad Kontiki is and how it got people's > > internet account suspended. > > > > Of course this is only a problem if you have limited monthly > > bandwidth. Very few ISPs don't impose some limit (many call > > there plan "unlimited" but have a "fair usage policy", which > > means you aren't allowed to use as much bandwidth as you want). > > > > Really sucks when you open up an application to download one > > program and later find out that your ISP has cut you off > > because when you clicked close the downloader kept going. > > > > Of course the BBC may have fixed this problem, anyone on the > > trail (or the BBC itself) care to confirm whether this is the case? > > > > Andy > > > > -- > > Computers are like air conditioners. Both stop working, if > > you open windows. > > -- Adam Heath > > - > > Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To > > unsubscribe, please visit > > http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. > > Unofficial list archive: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > > - > Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please > visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. > Unofficial list archive: > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > -- Martin Belam - http://www.currybet.net - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/
