Dear Glen, Lloyd, David and felow list members, The eight pointed star exercise is a good example of the skills that I teach in my workshops, except I dont teach it as a particularly Goethean anthropop approach. It really is just a case of tuning in and being aware of what is happening within you, and around you. The eight pointed star exercise raises some interesting questions as to why you can stand on this pattern and actually feel that there is a difference between different spots on the star. Initially the pattern has no meaning, it is only an abstract diagram drawn to test a theory, but at some stage the pattern has become an antennae. That this pattern is capable of broadcasting and receiving emanations is obvious from the feel that there is something occuring. Why is it that we can use a pattern, [sacred geometry] put a witness ,such as drop of blood, sputum, hair or any object that his person has had contact with, write a number, [an abstraction such as a rate] and it can cause an effect on that which the witness has come from. Does this action at a distance derive from intent, or is there some other factors in operation so subtle that unless we are aware of it, just passes us by. If we go past the belief that it is intent that causes this action or that, and just become aware of where our thoughts are going and follow them we become aware that there is a place where those thoughts go. A place where the thought and the action become one, where there is no cause and effect, there is just one.The thought is the key activator, not the intent. Just try this one, stand in the middle of a paddock with a small phial of Phosphoric Acid in your hand, or any reagent that you fancy, become aware of the feel of the contents of the phial, get a stick and draw a square or circle around you and start chanting the mantra Om. do it for as long as you can, usually the chanting will get to the stage that it will not come out, just retain your awareness on single pointed focus, you become the antennae and broadcaster. Each day before you do this exercise become aware of what is happening in the area that you are in for the exercise. What has changed? Has the phosphorus level changed in the area. You dont need to use the physical substances, you can bring them into manifestation from the unmanifest universe. To gain the confidence to even attempt this, first you must become aware that there are subtle emanations which can be amplifiedby awareness of muscle movements, much in the same way as kinesiology. It appears from much of the discussion that dowsing is some inferior form of perception, this is not the case, it is another form of perception. NASA trains all astronauts in dowsing, because it is easier in times of stress to have a unified set of responses which is consistent and in which you have absolute faith in your clarity under all conditions. Goethean perception may work very well in the workshop, or the training room, but when you have to find an answer in a hurry, are stressed, or move into a subject that you know nothing about, dowsing perception wins every time. Both dowsing and Goethean perception are skills which serve the adept well if they are proficient at them. Stay in the light. James ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glen Atkinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 7:00 PM Subject: Re: Agri-Synthesis� short-lived and overpriced? was R e: Agri-Synthesis� Remedies Tested At UAI
> Lloyd Charles wrote: > > > > More from the land of oz - I found this lurking uncompleted on My desktop - > > (Delete is just above the left cursor key if its too out of date) > > > > Gil Robertson wrote > While one can undoubtable wait for devine revelation, if > > playing > > > with a few acres in one situation, but if one is working with many > > properties, as > > > Hugh and James are, there is a need to get accurate answers, quickly. > > > > In HAstings NZ last weekend I was chatting with Joke Bloksma from the > Louis Bolk Institute in Holland, who is here seminaring on Geothean > observation. I wish to honour her part in the stimulation of these words > rather than quote our conversation. > We were discussing the difference between direct perception and dowsing. > One of the important parameters of geothean intutition is the feelings, > pictures, knowings and insights that one gains through ones Astral body > and Ego when observing or more correctly percieving something. > There are many other things that can be used as observations as well. > However staying with this one experience. As one puts out an impulse > into the environment through asking the question, the environment > responses instantaneously with the answer. By 'Environment' I mean from > the localised Astrality and higher Self/Ego out to the Collective > Unconscious realms and beyond. There is immense intelligence contained > in these spheres and they feed the answers back. > The lesson is being able to accept the answers and the experience. > Dowsing will access these same spheres however thru the route of the > passive unconscious.The operator has to remain as neutral as possible to > the response and allow the unconscious or even the higher self to speak > indepenantly of the dowser. This is in contrast to the perciever being a > wholly active participant in Geothean observation. > It is not that dowsing is bad so much as a starting place and that one > needs to progress thru to the personal experience of the awareness as > quickly as one can. > Today while talking with someone about the inner nature of the 8 pointed > star, I said I can give you an experience of the answer in 3 minutes or > I can tell you the answer immediately.* There is a world of difference > in the knowingness of the person from this choice. > This process is just another muscle we need to exercise to get > functioning. However the first step on the journey must be taken. > Try directly receiving the answer first and then check it with dowsing. > I sure this will speed the process up. > Once this is working well there is no extra time compared to dowsing, in > fact its faster. No waiting for the swing. > I am still a student of the path however experienced enough to say I > know this process is real, worthy and possible. > One of the side effects of our rush to extinction and the premature > 'going to seed' of humanity, is that we are all becoming wildly > intuitive very quickly. So this process is becoming easier. Just as > dowsing was a practise of the 19th century, it too may be unnecessary > for many in the very near present, due to our consciousness expansion. > It is highly possible that in relation to 1750 consciousness, we are > presently experiencing consciousness as if we were living at around > 3200AD, if the industrial revolution never occurred. > The times they are a changin' and fast. > > *Stand on the 4 cardinal points of the cross and then stand on the in > between points and tell me what you experience. > > cheers > Glen A > > -- > Garuda Biodynamics - for BD Preps, Consultations, Books & Diagrams > See our web site @ http://get.to/garuda > > >
