On Sun, Jul 16, 2023 at 2:27 PM Martin Blais <[email protected]> wrote:
> Precisely reliable and reproducible packaging and instructions that work > for everyone all the time are impossible tasks in my experience and I tried > for 25 years and eventually gave up. Too many environments, to many > different users and setups. I keep it simple for dev which I think is the > key, best is to use it like that to get the freshest. Other people do > packaging. Packages will inevitably be slightly older. Here's the gist: > Sure. I don't think I'm complaining about the install not working in weird corner cases or anything like that. Mostly remarking that the documentation is incorrect/broken/misleading in case you want to fix it for the next person who comes along. - "make build" will compile a .so in place (in the tree where you can > import it). Needs a C compiler with Python dev headers and library, bison > and flex. > The v3 install instructions that I found said to use Bazel, not make. Is Bazel just wrapping make here? Is there some reason to use make directly? > - set your PYTHONPATH to be able to import directly from the tree. > I'll do this with a venv to manage and isolate the dependencies and path management (which, FYI, if you wanted a hermetic and 100% reproducible build setup, would probably be the way to go, although I'm hardly an expert on that, and the last thing I want to do is debate your package's build setup :). Hope this helps, > Thanks! :) eric > > > > > > On Mon, Jul 17, 2023, 02:37 Eric Altendorf <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Aha, looks like this is the page: >> https://beancount.github.io/docs/installing_beancount_v3.html >> >> I'll work from that. Just sharing the FYI that some of the install >> instructions / links seem to be misleading. >> >> On Sun, Jul 16, 2023 at 10:19 AM Eric Altendorf <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> On Fri, Jul 14, 2023 at 8:35 PM Martin Blais <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sat, Jul 15, 2023, 11:06 Eric Altendorf <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Fri, Jul 14, 2023 at 4:45 PM Martin Blais <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> v3 > v2 >>>>>> No less stable; less overall code, many parts moved to subprojects >>>>>> that have been more actively developed. Some c++ bit present but not used >>>>>> in the main loop. >>>>>> Use v3. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Cool. FWIW, https://beancount.github.io/ still says v3 "is unstable >>>>> and you want to use version 2 below". >>>>> >>>> >>>> All types of users, this is largely for non technical users. It's >>>> stable enough for you. I try not to commit build breaking changes (lots of >>>> tests). >>>> >>> >>> OK. Looks like `apt install` just gives me v2, so I removed that and >>> I'm back to installing from source. I'd like to install for dev, in case I >>> want to experiment with writing my own booking algorithm. >>> >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> And https://beancount.github.io/docs/installing_beancount.html says it >>>>> is instructions for installing v2. >>>>> >>>>> Also I tried following the "Installing for Development" instructions >>>>> there, running git clone, then `sudo python3 setup.py develop` and >>>>> `python3 >>>>> setup.py build_ext -i` and this produced a broken install. >>>>> >>>> >>>> This is for development, in just modify your PYTHONPATH to include the >>>> repo. See beancount/etc/env >>>> >>> >>> Sorry, I think I'm missing something more basic; things were very broken >>> just following the instructions. I do notice there is a Makefile in the >>> directory, is running `make` supposed to be part of the install-from-source >>> or install-for-dev process? >>> >>> The instructions just say to run setup.py but that doesn't seem to do >>> much. >>> >>> I'm also not sure if I'm even following the right instructions since, as >>> I mentioned, the document itself says it's for installing v2, and the link >>> to instructions for installing v3 is broken (links to >>> https://beancount.github.io/docs/installing_beancount_v3.md ) >>> >>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Backing out of that and just running `apt install beancount` worked >>>>> fine though :-D >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> (Apologies for the little warning in every invocation.) >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sat, Jul 15, 2023, 07:42 Eric Altendorf <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I'd like to get started with Beancount, and it wasn't clear to me if >>>>>>> the docs have been updated recently. 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