Got it, thanks. On Sun, Jul 16, 2023 at 10:07 PM Martin Blais <[email protected]> wrote:
> bean-query, bean-price have been moved to their own projects in v3. > See other repos in the same org. > > Bean-web has been deleted; use Fava instead. > > On Mon, Jul 17, 2023, 10:26 Eric Altendorf <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Thanks. >> >> make & pip install worked fine. can run bean-check. Still doesn't seem >> to be building some of the tools, e.g., `bean-web` is still missing: >> >> beancount$ ls bin >> bean-check bean-doctor bean-example bean-format BUILD treeify >> >> do i still need to do something with setup.py like in v2? >> >> >> On Sun, Jul 16, 2023 at 5:10 PM Martin Blais <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Jul 17, 2023, 06:00 Eric Altendorf <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> On Sun, Jul 16, 2023 at 2:27 PM Martin Blais <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Precisely reliable and reproducible packaging and instructions that >>>>> work for everyone all the time are impossible tasks in my experience and I >>>>> tried for 25 years and eventually gave up. Too many environments, to many >>>>> different users and setups. I keep it simple for dev which I think is the >>>>> key, best is to use it like that to get the freshest. Other people do >>>>> packaging. Packages will inevitably be slightly older. Here's the gist: >>>>> >>>> >>>> Sure. I don't think I'm complaining about the install not working in >>>> weird corner cases or anything like that. Mostly remarking that the >>>> documentation is incorrect/broken/misleading in case you want to fix it for >>>> the next person who comes along. >>>> >>>> - "make build" will compile a .so in place (in the tree where you can >>>>> import it). Needs a C compiler with Python dev headers and library, bison >>>>> and flex. >>>>> >>>> >>>> The v3 install instructions that I found said to use Bazel, not make. >>>> Is Bazel just wrapping make here? Is there some reason to use make >>>> directly? >>>> >>> >>> Ignore bazel, this is work in progress you don't need. V3 works fine >>> with the Python/c parser. There will also be a warning when you run about >>> missing that library, ignore that too. >>> >>> >>> >>>> >>>>> - set your PYTHONPATH to be able to import directly from the tree. >>>>> >>>> >>>> I'll do this with a venv to manage and isolate the dependencies and >>>> path management (which, FYI, if you wanted a hermetic and 100% reproducible >>>> build setup, would probably be the way to go, although I'm hardly an expert >>>> on that, and the last thing I want to do is debate your package's build >>>> setup :). >>>> >>> >>> Knock yourself out, >>> pip install . into your venv should work. >>> >>> >>>> Hope this helps, >>>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks! :) >>>> >>>> eric >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Jul 17, 2023, 02:37 Eric Altendorf <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Aha, looks like this is the page: >>>>>> https://beancount.github.io/docs/installing_beancount_v3.html >>>>>> >>>>>> I'll work from that. Just sharing the FYI that some of the install >>>>>> instructions / links seem to be misleading. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sun, Jul 16, 2023 at 10:19 AM Eric Altendorf < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, Jul 14, 2023 at 8:35 PM Martin Blais <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sat, Jul 15, 2023, 11:06 Eric Altendorf <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jul 14, 2023 at 4:45 PM Martin Blais <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> v3 > v2 >>>>>>>>>> No less stable; less overall code, many parts moved to >>>>>>>>>> subprojects that have been more actively developed. Some c++ bit >>>>>>>>>> present >>>>>>>>>> but not used in the main loop. >>>>>>>>>> Use v3. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Cool. FWIW, https://beancount.github.io/ still says v3 "is >>>>>>>>> unstable and you want to use version 2 below". >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> All types of users, this is largely for non technical users. It's >>>>>>>> stable enough for you. I try not to commit build breaking changes >>>>>>>> (lots of >>>>>>>> tests). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> OK. Looks like `apt install` just gives me v2, so I removed that >>>>>>> and I'm back to installing from source. I'd like to install for dev, in >>>>>>> case I want to experiment with writing my own booking algorithm. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> And https://beancount.github.io/docs/installing_beancount.html >>>>>>>>> says it is instructions for installing v2. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Also I tried following the "Installing for Development" >>>>>>>>> instructions there, running git clone, then `sudo python3 setup.py >>>>>>>>> develop` >>>>>>>>> and `python3 setup.py build_ext -i` and this produced a broken >>>>>>>>> install. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This is for development, in just modify your PYTHONPATH to include >>>>>>>> the repo. See beancount/etc/env >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sorry, I think I'm missing something more basic; things were very >>>>>>> broken just following the instructions. I do notice there is a >>>>>>> Makefile in >>>>>>> the directory, is running `make` supposed to be part of the >>>>>>> install-from-source or install-for-dev process? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The instructions just say to run setup.py but that doesn't seem to >>>>>>> do much. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm also not sure if I'm even following the right instructions >>>>>>> since, as I mentioned, the document itself says it's for installing v2, >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> the link to instructions for installing v3 is broken (links to >>>>>>> https://beancount.github.io/docs/installing_beancount_v3.md ) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Backing out of that and just running `apt install beancount` >>>>>>>>> worked fine though :-D >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> (Apologies for the little warning in every invocation.) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Jul 15, 2023, 07:42 Eric Altendorf < >>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I'd like to get started with Beancount, and it wasn't clear to >>>>>>>>>>> me if the docs have been updated recently. 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