Here's the next trick I learned. You can remove the IT policy without an active number on the BB by using the USB cable. Install the BES manager on a local PC. Connect the Blackberry via USB. Assign it to a user (I used a test account for this), Assign the "remove IT policy" to the user. Once the policy has synced, send an erase and disable command from the BES. When the Blackberry starts erasing you can disconnect it and once the device wipes it will be clean.
Tim _____ From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 9:06 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Bes-admins] Out of curiosity Just set this up... Worked perfect. Great tip, thanks! _____ From: "Bachman, Tim J." <[email protected]> To: [email protected]; "A list for BES Admin's to discuss issues,etc." <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, October 5, 2009 6:14:28 PM Subject: RE: [Bes-admins] Out of curiosity If you know ahead of time you can take care of it. I created an IT policy called "remove it policy" the only option I changed from default is under "security policy group" called "remote wipe reset to factory defaults". If a user is going to take the device then I put them in this group, wait for the policy to get to the device and then send a remote kill (it has to be from the BES). This will wipe everything including any reference to an IT policy. There are ways to do this after the fact but this is the easiest I know of. Tim _____ From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 5:00 PM To: A list for BES Admin's to discuss issues,etc. Subject: Re: [Bes-admins] Out of curiosity Anyone had this scenario happen? We have an IT Policy to lock people's handheld's after 5 minutes... I've had employees go buy new devices with Verizon, activate them and then have us add them to BES. This wouldn't be an issue except the employee gave the BB to his wife, friend, whomever... Only that user is running BIS, not BES, so they can't overwrite the IT policy to lock the handheld. I had to help an employee's friend, who just inherited his old 8830 go through these steps. Of course, the guy had never owned a PDA, never mind a BlackBerry, so things like "press the menu button" where 5 min conversations - Have non-employee call Verizon and switch to BIS (took him 2 phone calls and 2 hours to do) - I created a fake user on our network and added him to our BES server with a default IT policy - Had non-employee do an OTA activation of his Verizon BB (kept trying call from the BB, b/c he didn't have another phone) - Once it finally activated (took forever and another call to VZW to provision it properly) had him verify that the IT policy was "default" - Had him change the password and save it - Have him call Verizon and go back to BIS - stabbed myself with a pen for a complete waste of an afternoon. Please tell me there is a better way to handle this.... _____ From: "Eggan, Mark" <[email protected]> To: "A list for BES Admin's to discuss issues, etc." <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, October 5, 2009 5:42:12 PM Subject: Re: [Bes-admins] Out of curiosity Excellent point. I know right away about a bad data plan if they don't see EA under Adv. Options. Thanks! - Mark Eggan -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ceron, Carlos Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 2:37 PM To: 'A list for BES Admin's to discuss issues, etc.' Subject: Re: [Bes-admins] Out of curiosity I would do the same hand holding with anyone that wanted their BBs on our BES. I've trained enough of our help desk staff that they know how to talk a user through it or they email my preformatted instruction letter. The only thing that makes it easier for the most part is that the Options icon is usually in the same place with every new version of the BB OS. Most of the time if it doesn't sync up the first time, the user got the wrong data plan which happens 99% of the time in spite of telling them to ask for a BB corporate or enterprise data plan. Carlos Ceron Network Analyst Office of Technology and Information Services The University of Texas System Phone: (512) 579-5064 Fax: (512) 499-4599 E-Mail: [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Eggan, Mark Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 3:34 PM To: A list for BES Admin's to discuss issues, etc. Subject: Re: [Bes-admins] Out of curiosity Was just typing that out. Another thing I do is (assuming the can place bread in a toaster and make toast) I have them call me during MY work hours and hold their hands. Knowing which device and OS level is optimal so you can say the spiel below. Once I hear the people say that they can now see ...waiting for services on their BB, I let them know to have a nice day and keep their manual handy. Preferably under their keyboard where they keep their passwords! Thanks! - Mark Eggan -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of audit Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 1:31 PM To: A list for BES Admin's to discuss issues,etc. Subject: Re: [Bes-admins] Out of curiosity I send them a simple email with these instructions. 1. goto Options 2. Advanced Options 3. Enterprise Activation 4. Type in your email address 5. Type in the following password. Then it's normally 4 numbers. Then I sit back and watch the BES. Maybe less then 2% of my remote users ever have any problems and if they do, it's normally not their fault and it's a Anti-Spam rule that's blocking the .dat email and throwing it in their junk email. audit Art Alexion wrote: > I see a lot of issues on this list from many who support remote users > all over the world, but no one mentions problems getting non-technical, > remote users' phones activated. > > After supporting Treo in their late and flaky years, I expected BES to > be a godsend. Yet, I still have to activate phones for about half the > local people, and am having a hard time activating remote users. Based > on the inability of local users to follow what seem to me to be simple > instructions, I have to conclude that the problem is not technical; they > are just doing it wrong. > > Does anyone have reliably easy to follow instructions for remote users? > How do you make this work? > > _______________________________________________ Bes-Admins mailing list [email protected] http://www.dataoutages.com/mailman/listinfo/bes-admins http://www.dataoutages.com http://www.dataoutagenews.com RSS Feed: http://feeds.feedburner.com/Bes-admins --------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Bes-Admins mailing list [email protected] http://www.dataoutages.com/mailman/listinfo/bes-admins http://www.dataoutages.com http://www.dataoutagenews.com RSS Feed: http://feeds.feedburner.com/Bes-admins --------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Bes-Admins mailing list [email protected] http://www.dataoutages.com/mailman/listinfo/bes-admins http://www.dataoutages.com http://www.dataoutagenews.com RSS Feed: http://feeds.feedburner.com/Bes-admins --------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Bes-Admins mailing list [email protected] http://www.dataoutages.com/mailman/listinfo/bes-admins http://www.dataoutages.com http://www.dataoutagenews.com RSS Feed: http://feeds.feedburner.com/Bes-admins ---------------------------------
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