I think this discussion has gone way off track. I agree with Bill that the Mac AIO will greatly simplify the OSX installation, and will have a go at a new set of instructions.
On 3 August 2015 at 16:37, Norman Drinkwater <[email protected]> wrote: > An AIO installer on the Mac should be trivial. Just turn the folder with a > full installation into a dmg. I can take a stab at that next week. > On Aug 3, 2015 7:33 PM, "bill lam" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > children (and even most adults) do not like to read and follow long > > instructions just for install a new software. Providing a short quick > start > > page which contains: > > > > direct link for AIO installer > > ask them to click, download, run the file > > ask them to run Qt IDE and type > > install 'all' > > to update base library as well as install all addons. > > > > We need to build an AIO installer for mac. > > 04 авг. 2015 г. 1:55 пользователь "chris burke" <[email protected]> > > написал: > > > > > I agree about Henry's clarity and like his explanations of the steps > that > > > are needed. > > > > > > Nevertheless, the base system and the IDE are distinct things, and IMHO > > > trying to shove everything on a single page is confusing and makes > things > > > harder. > > > > > > Our primary user base are software developers, and this group should > have > > > no difficulty understanding the concept of a base system plus addons. > > This > > > is how almost all software gets distributed nowadays. > > > > > > The schoolchildren and other novices are a different matter. For them, > a > > > quick start page with no options would seem to be best. One such page > > for a > > > full install should suffice. Minimal installs are primarily intended > for > > > developers distributing applications, so would not apply to this group. > > > > > > > > > On 3 August 2015 at 10:42, Brian Schott <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > > > Chris, > > > > > > > > I think Henry's approach is very good. It has always seemed awkward > to > > me > > > > for there to be a separate page for the qt ide, and then another for > > the > > > > addons especially because they often did not refer to one another or > if > > > > they did, the references/links were hard to see. > > > > > > > > Perhaps a compromise would be a "Quick Start" page as you suggest, > but > > > > Henry's clarity would be missed without a page such as his. It sounds > > > like > > > > there are 2 different "Quick Start" pages needed: one for a full > > > > installation and one for a minimal installation. I think Henry's page > > > > accomplishes both, somewhat. > > > > > > > > On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 12:57 PM, chris burke <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > I want to revert to separate pages for the base and for the Qt > > > > > installation. It is too much to have all this on one page. > > > > > > > > > > As Bill points out, it is the case that Qt is optional. That your > > users > > > > > need it should not complicate the installation for others. > > > > > > > > > > By all means steer the novice as you think appropriate, but this > > should > > > > not > > > > > affect the base installation page. A simple statement on that page > > can > > > > > direct them to the Qt IDE page. > > > > > > > > > > I am surprised that all this is apparently caused by your students > > > having > > > > > difficulties with the Mac. This makes it more appropriate that we > > have > > > a > > > > > "Quick Start" page that gives the few instructions needed to > install > > > > > J+Qt+Addons for those who just want everything in the default > > location. > > > > > This page can have sections for each platform. > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > (B=) > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > For information about J forums see > http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
