I am considering Open System and Open User and will see how that looks after
some of the other dust has settled. Note that this is probably not a problem
for a standard install (~/j602 and ~/j602-user) and becomes an issue only
when the user moves stuff around. The primary justification for is multiple
users and it may not be so important to make it easy for multiple users to
open system files. The one developer who wanted to open system could easily
provide a shortcut key that did just that.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Oleg Kobchenko" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Beta forum" <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 1:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Jbeta] j602bbeta
User profile is not terribly inaccessibly, however "My Documents"
would probably be better.
Especially for relocated My Documents,
which is often mapped to share in corporate setting,
and can be directly changed by user in Explorer.
My Documents means that user can open those files directly from Explorer
and other apps easily.
In addition, for all platforms it makes sense to provide
two Open items in File menu:
Open System ...
Open User ... or just Open ...
Oleg
On Nov 3, 2007, at 22:51, bill lam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I guess that depends on would contents in that usr folder intended to be
accessed directly. for example
gimp (ported from linux) do this
C:\Documents and Settings\bill\.gimp-2.2
while most (not all) other window application do this
C:\Documents and Settings\bill\Application Data\IrfanView
both of them are intended to be hidden.
some window applications do this albeit the file are not intended for
modification directly by users.
C:\Documents and Settings\bill\My Documents\STDocViewer
Following this pattern,
1. if usr must be hidden
C:\Documents and Settings\bill\.j602-user
C:\Documents and Settings\bill\Application Data\j602-user
/home/bill/.j602-user
2. otherwise my document is also a candidate and more accessible as Ric
said.
C:\Documents and Settings\bill\My Documents\j602-user
/home/bill/j602-user
Sherlock, Ric wrote:
I really like the improved installed layout in j602bbeta. Despite that I
still have some suggestions!
On XP the user folder is currently:
\Documents and Settings\<username>\j602-user
This location is not very accessible (hard to navigate to from Open &
Save dialogs) and other apps store their user documents in "My
Documents".
(2!:5 'USERPROFILE'),'\My Documents'
I'm aware that in Vista the <username> folder is a lot more accessible
than in XP, but think even there (not having used Vista much) that the
"Documents" folder is the most appropriate place for the "J602-user"
folder.
The problem this would introduce is how to detect Vista vs XP (and
therefore Documents vs. My Documents) in profile.ijs. Then there are
the use cases of usb installations and users who relocate their
Documents folders.
Perhaps one way to try and get around some of these issues is to enable
the user to choose to change the default destination of "J602-user"
(hom) during installation (in the same way as the user can choose the
install folder). That would require the profile.ijs to be edited by the
installer to set "hom" (not sure how feasible this is), but would also
solve the issue of usb installations.
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Eric Iverson
Sent: Saturday, 3 November 2007 10:25
To: beta
Subject: [Jbeta] j602bbeta
See www.jsoftware.com Beta page for bbetas for Windows32, Linux32, Mac
Intel, and Mac Powerpc.
The bbeta is a cleanup of the installer packaging and does not include a
new J Engine or scripts.
J32 Windows no longer requires vcredist. J64 Windows (not yet available)
will require vcredist.
Linux installer is a tar.gz file.
Mac installer is a disk images.
There are new J icons. The icons in the various formats, colors, and sizes
have been provided by Ric Sherlock. There will probably be one more
iteration with the Windows icons to make the J a tad smaller and move it
up and to the right so that it looks better with the link arrow.
Lab Application Distribution - Installer has been reworked to reflect the
new platform specific J installers. Please take a look. It is interesting
that the Mac has moved from most awkward to most elegant.
With luck the installer issues are resolved with this beta and we can then
move along to engine and script issues.
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