User profile is not terribly inaccessibly, however "My Documents" 
would probably be better.
Especially for relocated My Documents,
which is often mapped to share in corporate setting,
and can be directly changed by user in Explorer.

My Documents means that user can open those files directly from Explorer
and other apps easily.

In addition, for all platforms it makes sense to provide 
two Open items in File menu:
  Open System ...
  Open User ... or just Open ...


Oleg


On Nov 3, 2007, at 22:51, bill lam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I guess that depends on would contents in that usr folder intended to be 
accessed directly. for example
gimp (ported from linux) do this
C:\Documents and Settings\bill\.gimp-2.2

while most (not all) other window application do this
C:\Documents and Settings\bill\Application Data\IrfanView

both of them are intended to be hidden.

some window applications do this albeit the file are not intended for 
modification directly by users.
C:\Documents and Settings\bill\My Documents\STDocViewer

Following this pattern,
1. if usr must be hidden
C:\Documents and Settings\bill\.j602-user

C:\Documents and Settings\bill\Application Data\j602-user

/home/bill/.j602-user

2. otherwise my document is also a candidate and more accessible as Ric said.

C:\Documents and Settings\bill\My Documents\j602-user
/home/bill/j602-user

Sherlock, Ric wrote:
I really like the improved installed layout in j602bbeta.  Despite that I still 
have some suggestions!
On XP the user folder is currently:
\Documents and Settings\<username>\j602-user
This location is not very accessible (hard to navigate to from Open &
Save dialogs) and other apps store their user documents in "My
Documents".
(2!:5 'USERPROFILE'),'\My Documents'
I'm aware that in Vista the <username> folder is a lot more accessible
than in XP, but think even there (not having used Vista much) that the
"Documents" folder is the most appropriate place for the "J602-user"
folder.
The problem this would introduce is how to detect Vista vs XP (and
therefore Documents vs. My Documents) in profile.ijs.  Then there are
the use cases of usb installations and users who relocate their
Documents folders.
Perhaps one way to try and get around some of these issues is to enable
the user to choose to change the default destination of "J602-user"
(hom) during installation (in the same way as the user can choose the
install folder). That would require the profile.ijs to be edited by the
installer to set "hom" (not sure how feasible this is), but would also
solve the issue of usb installations.
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Iverson
Sent: Saturday, 3 November 2007 10:25
To: beta
Subject: [Jbeta] j602bbeta


See www.jsoftware.com Beta page for bbetas for Windows32, Linux32, Mac Intel, 
and Mac Powerpc.

The bbeta is a cleanup of the installer packaging and does not include a new J 
Engine or scripts.

J32 Windows no longer requires vcredist. J64 Windows (not yet available) will 
require vcredist.

Linux installer is a tar.gz file.

Mac installer is a disk images.

There are new J icons. The icons in the various formats, colors, and sizes have 
been provided by Ric Sherlock. There will probably be one more iteration with 
the Windows icons to make the J a tad smaller and move it up and to the right 
so that it looks better with the link arrow.

Lab Application Distribution - Installer has been reworked to reflect the new 
platform specific J installers. Please take a look. It is interesting that the 
Mac has moved from most awkward to most elegant.

With luck the installer issues are resolved with this beta and we can then move 
along to engine and script issues.



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