JJZolx;540429 Wrote: 
> I think there's one bit of logic that has changed in 7.6: If an album
> has an ALBUMARTIST=Various Artists (or whatever string you have entered
> in the setting for Various Artists name) then the album is now
> considered a compilation, similar to tagging it with COMPILATION=1. 
> Prior to 7.6 if you set ALBUMARTIST=Various Artists then it was as if
> you had created a new artist with then name "Various Artists".

this is very interesting to me for many reasons.  is what you say above
true?  i hope so, b/c its a step in the right direction.

first, its important to stipulate that all major marketshare apps and
tagging sources (except freedb) will fill in TPE2 (ripped or
autotagged) as meaning AlbumArtist info, comp or not.  that means
almost all audio file users will come to slim with that data.  (they
also do it for other formats)

this is why i have said that slims SBS dev paradigm is fundamentally
flawed; they should not just blanketly design the software on the
assumption that the mere presence of AA info inherently means something
beyond what it is meant to do.

the fact is, lots of things will come to SBS with AA info, and lots of
it really will be comps, and lots of it won't be, but almost all of it
will have AA info.

*but the simple fact is AA info does not indicate, one way or the
other, if something is a comp or not.*  the data may not even be
necessary in many cases, (like when all TPE1 info is the same, and
equal to the TPE2 info), but the data will be present regardless;
again, it doesn't indicate anything in that case either, its just
duplication.

all AA info does, and all it is meant to do, is gather all the tracks
from a given CD/album under the heading of a single artist (when that
single artist has guests) or category (such as "Soundtracks" or
"Various Artists" etc).  that then is used to display/denote and sort
things properly, but nothing more.

it was NEVER meant, by its mere presence, or lack of one, to indicate
if something was a comp or not.  there is no relationship between it
and somethings comp status, (meaning, in the real world, not the
fabrication of SBS).  this is especially salient given the market
stipulation i made to start.

thats why i suggested years ago, that instead of looking for TPE1
mismatches where AA info wasn't present and blindly assuming thats a
comp, it would be smarter to allow the user to identify the AA strings
they wanted SBS to recognize as meaning "this is a comp."

if SBS now does do that, as per your quote, in at least recognizing
that the string "Various Artists" means something is a comp, thats
great!  what i would suggest is that this shouldn't be hardcoded.  a
separate settings page should allow the user to specify as many strings
they want recognized, including none at all; whatever they want.

its also worth noting that there really is very little reason for SBS
to know somthing is a comp, but occassionally a 3rd party app benefits
from it, like the album catalog creator.

also, it sounds like by doing this they are going to address this bug
in 7.6:

http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=9523

which i am glad to see.  and i think they should also include this bug,
which Erland already did the code for:

http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=8324

b/c for many people, being able to turn off VA artist mismatch
detection logic would help speed up the scanning process.  i don't need
it or want it, i do want to be able to turn it off.

what would or should happen if its turned off for those users without
AA info?  well, implement it, and lets see what happens, and then go
from there.  but fear of the unknown is no reason not to do it.  my
guess is it would be fine, whatever it did.


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