belial1134, So it is, but that is Dune. The expansion Dune: Spice Harvest is $199 (ridonkulas!) on Amazon and there is no Dune: The Duel, so again that satisfies my "supply and demand" theory, which just makes me feel is it all not worth it? And I said the 2 expansion, at $100 are worth all 3 games. and I also saw he had it the top of his want list, so I guess I am just being to realistic hopping to get partial, rare, value of these items. I assume then $50 for each exp and $50 for Dune + $50 for other copy of Dune and components. That is half actual value and still equal to what is being traded, and I assume still way off. That is why I only contact people who have Dune and exp at the top of Wanted the #1 selection on wishlist. Seems even that is asking to much.
I am also the original owner and purchaser of all games and components. I never paid over $100 for any of it. Well maybe buying the backup components, because Avalon Hill was going under and I thought I would never get any more components when the originals wore out or got damaged... hehe, so with that, yes I spent more than $100. But in a "supply and demand" scenario, price paid for supply is not relevant except in factoring the "demand" price. Is that were my thinking goes.. whoooie? On Saturday, August 4, 2012 1:19:24 AM UTC-6, belial1134 wrote: > > Dune is available on Amazon..2 copies, the lowest is $150+$5.99 shipping. > Of course as others have said, that is asking price and not what it > necessarily sells for...but it is on there. > > Geekbay is the section on BGG where people list games for sale (usually in > an auction format) via a geeklist > > > > On Saturday, August 4, 2012 2:11:56 AM UTC-5, Wolfe13 wrote: >> >> Getaklue, >> >> That is probably the most ahah moment I have had during this whole >> trading thing, but on eBay the prices are similar and you can't get it on >> Amazon, so at this time, there is no other benchmark. If the BGG was way >> lower, the eBay purchasers are just being naive, but it has steadily sold >> for that. So during this time the demand is high but I don't see the supply >> as high. So I think while White (rare out of print game $100, to me), >> Eclipse (in print, found it for $69 with $13 shipping, so I place it at >> $80) and Alien ( $40 best price to demand I could come up with) = >> $100+$80+$40= $210. As of now and the last 2 days, the only way to get the >> expansions for dune was BGG $90+ or eBay $100+ both expansion equal the >> trade alone but you get 2 copies of Dune, one you can also flip, and >> components galore. Maybe I am just plain wrong but I see it being sided to >> the person getting the "Dune" trade lot. >> >> On Saturday, August 4, 2012 12:58:29 AM UTC-6, Getaklue wrote: >>> >>> In general, I don't think the BGG Marketplace is always a great >>> indicator of what a game is worth. It's more a reflection of the maximum >>> price that someone might consider buying a game for. For instance, if you >>> wanted to buy a game and people were selling it in the Marketplace for $50, >>> $60 and $70 (assuming similar conditions) you would buy it for $50. So >>> someone coming along would look at the Marketplace and say - this game >>> sells for $60 - 70; and you would say - "That's crazy, I just bought it for >>> $50." The Marketplace is just a snapshot in time. The best deals have >>> already been sold, so now you are looking at the prices that make people >>> pause before pulling the trigger - or the totally overpriced items that no >>> one is going to buy. >>> >>> What are the Dune game and expansions worth to you? Maybe you bought >>> them for $100 - so getting Eclipse and Whitechapel in trade would be a good >>> deal. Versus trying to get Eclipse, Whitechapel and Alien Frontiers >>> because you've seen Dune and the expansions sell for high prices a few >>> times. >>> >>> Unless you desperately want a game, patience is a key virtue when it >>> comes to trading!. >>> >>> On Saturday, August 4, 2012 1:43:34 AM UTC-5, Wolfe13 wrote: >>>> >>>> Thanks Getaklue, (how ironic your name in this situation. Lol) >>>> >>>> Yes you are correct but I was talking expansions and right now the BGG >>>> price is $90= (I know that is value but not trade value) but as of 2 hours >>>> ago that was the only way to get the expansion, besides trading (so my >>>> reference to supply and demand) >>>> >>>> Trump, >>>> >>>> I agree if I am not playing a certain game I don't have a lot of value >>>> placed on it and may just want it so I will trade the farm, in the eyes of >>>> the recipient (supply and demand again) >>>> >>>> On Saturday, August 4, 2012 12:37:27 AM UTC-6, Getaklue wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Sorry to say it - but I think you are off base. I routinely go to the >>>>> GenCon auction and have seen copies of Dune sell for as little as $40. I >>>>> recently picked up a copy of Dune and both expansions on-line (but not >>>>> Ebay) for $100. If you are patient and do a lot of digging you can get >>>>> some pretty good prices on those titles. In fact, I would think that I >>>>> was >>>>> getting a STEAL if someone wanted to trade Whitechapel, Eclipse and Alien >>>>> Fronties for my copy of Dune and both expansions. Sorry but you may need >>>>> to look at the lowest, common prices for what you want to trade and not >>>>> the >>>>> pie-in-the-sky prices that sometimes you see on Ebay or BGG. Trust me, >>>>> I've over-valued some of my games in the past too! >>>>> >>>>> Getaklue >>>>> >>>>> On Saturday, August 4, 2012 1:25:21 AM UTC-5, Wolfe13 wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Everyone thanks! >>>>>> >>>>>> My issue is I have 2 complete copies of Dune (1 Sandworm and the >>>>>> other "Sandworm" but it is in a generic Avalon Hill box) and both >>>>>> expansions. I also have triplicates of all components, so If I had >>>>>> another >>>>>> game board and box I would have 3 games. >>>>>> >>>>>> I fell that is worth, for sake of saying... Whitechapel, Eclipse and >>>>>> Alien Frontiers. Why you ask? The trader would get 1 complete copy he >>>>>> then >>>>>> could "flip" the expansions for $100 on eBay or $90+ on BGG. Am I being >>>>>> unreasonable? Is my "Dune" not worth what I think? Is it expecting to >>>>>> much >>>>>> to have the other person see that market to market they are getting a >>>>>> steal? Or am I way off base? >>>>>> >>>>>> On Friday, August 3, 2012 10:15:33 PM UTC-6, Wolfe13 wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> When trading is it fair market, BGG market, eBay, Amazon or supply >>>>>>> and demand. Reason I ask is it seems I can not get a trade to work for >>>>>>> me >>>>>>> and the other party... frustrated >>>>>>> >>>>>> >> On Saturday, August 4, 2012 12:58:29 AM UTC-6, Getaklue wrote: >>> >>> In general, I don't think the BGG Marketplace is always a great >>> indicator of what a game is worth. It's more a reflection of the maximum >>> price that someone might consider buying a game for. For instance, if you >>> wanted to buy a game and people were selling it in the Marketplace for $50, >>> $60 and $70 (assuming similar conditions) you would buy it for $50. So >>> someone coming along would look at the Marketplace and say - this game >>> sells for $60 - 70; and you would say - "That's crazy, I just bought it for >>> $50." The Marketplace is just a snapshot in time. The best deals have >>> already been sold, so now you are looking at the prices that make people >>> pause before pulling the trigger - or the totally overpriced items that no >>> one is going to buy. >>> >>> What are the Dune game and expansions worth to you? Maybe you bought >>> them for $100 - so getting Eclipse and Whitechapel in trade would be a good >>> deal. Versus trying to get Eclipse, Whitechapel and Alien Frontiers >>> because you've seen Dune and the expansions sell for high prices a few >>> times. >>> >>> Unless you desperately want a game, patience is a key virtue when it >>> comes to trading!. >>> >>> On Saturday, August 4, 2012 1:43:34 AM UTC-5, Wolfe13 wrote: >>>> >>>> Thanks Getaklue, (how ironic your name in this situation. Lol) >>>> >>>> Yes you are correct but I was talking expansions and right now the BGG >>>> price is $90= (I know that is value but not trade value) but as of 2 hours >>>> ago that was the only way to get the expansion, besides trading (so my >>>> reference to supply and demand) >>>> >>>> Trump, >>>> >>>> I agree if I am not playing a certain game I don't have a lot of value >>>> placed on it and may just want it so I will trade the farm, in the eyes of >>>> the recipient (supply and demand again) >>>> >>>> On Saturday, August 4, 2012 12:37:27 AM UTC-6, Getaklue wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Sorry to say it - but I think you are off base. I routinely go to the >>>>> GenCon auction and have seen copies of Dune sell for as little as $40. I >>>>> recently picked up a copy of Dune and both expansions on-line (but not >>>>> Ebay) for $100. If you are patient and do a lot of digging you can get >>>>> some pretty good prices on those titles. In fact, I would think that I >>>>> was >>>>> getting a STEAL if someone wanted to trade Whitechapel, Eclipse and Alien >>>>> Fronties for my copy of Dune and both expansions. Sorry but you may need >>>>> to look at the lowest, common prices for what you want to trade and not >>>>> the >>>>> pie-in-the-sky prices that sometimes you see on Ebay or BGG. Trust me, >>>>> I've over-valued some of my games in the past too! >>>>> >>>>> Getaklue >>>>> >>>>> On Saturday, August 4, 2012 1:25:21 AM UTC-5, Wolfe13 wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Everyone thanks! >>>>>> >>>>>> My issue is I have 2 complete copies of Dune (1 Sandworm and the >>>>>> other "Sandworm" but it is in a generic Avalon Hill box) and both >>>>>> expansions. I also have triplicates of all components, so If I had >>>>>> another >>>>>> game board and box I would have 3 games. >>>>>> >>>>>> I fell that is worth, for sake of saying... Whitechapel, Eclipse and >>>>>> Alien Frontiers. Why you ask? The trader would get 1 complete copy he >>>>>> then >>>>>> could "flip" the expansions for $100 on eBay or $90+ on BGG. Am I being >>>>>> unreasonable? Is my "Dune" not worth what I think? Is it expecting to >>>>>> much >>>>>> to have the other person see that market to market they are getting a >>>>>> steal? Or am I way off base? >>>>>> >>>>>> On Friday, August 3, 2012 10:15:33 PM UTC-6, Wolfe13 wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> When trading is it fair market, BGG market, eBay, Amazon or supply >>>>>>> and demand. Reason I ask is it seems I can not get a trade to work for >>>>>>> me >>>>>>> and the other party... frustrated >>>>>>> >>>>>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "BGG Down" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/bgg_down/-/TZyfpdyL7lsJ. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. 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