When I said Geekbay, I just meant running an auction for the games - 
similar to the other auctions being run in the Buying and Selling section 
of BGG.  You say that the only way to get the game and expansions right now 
is either BGG or Ebay.  But you seem to be focused on what you can get them 
for right now.  The person you want to trade with may realize that they can 
get a better deal if they are willing to wait or look around a little bit.  
I bought both Dune expansions on Ebay a couple of years ago for $80 - $40 a 
piece - and they were both in the shrink!  Now that was a great deal for 
me.  But it goes to show you what can happen if you are patient.  

It seems that when you are trying to put together a trade you want the 
maximum price you find in the marketplace for your games and the minimum 
price that you can find for their games.  

Like I mentioned earlier, what did you pay for Dune and the 2 expansions?  
Be honest with yourself - if you got them for $150, should someone trade 
you $200 in games for them?  Maybe you worked hard and got a great deal to 
get them.  The same applies to your potential trading partner.  I think 
maybe you are being greedy - basing what you want on maximum trade value 
for your games and minimum for theirs.  Trade them one copy of Dune and the 
expansion (forget about the 2nd copy and extras for the moment).  Would you 
be happy with Eclipse and Whitechapel for them?  Then why also try to get 
Alien Frontiers?  Trade the 2nd copy of Dune for Alien Frontiers.

I probably have 75% of my trades accepted - you just have to be realistic 
about what you are trading.

Best Regards,

Getaklue



In general, I don't think the BGG Marketplace is always a great indicator 
>>> of what a game is worth.  It's more a reflection of the maximum price that 
>>> someone might consider buying a game for.  For instance, if you wanted to 
>>> buy a game and people were selling it in the Marketplace for $50, $60 and 
>>> $70 (assuming similar conditions) you would buy it for $50.  So someone 
>>> coming along would look at the Marketplace and say - this game sells for 
>>> $60 - 70; and you would say - "That's crazy, I just bought it for $50."  
>>> The Marketplace is just a snapshot in time.  The best deals have already 
>>> been sold, so now you are looking at the prices that make people pause 
>>> before pulling the trigger - or the totally overpriced items that no one is 
>>> going to buy.
>>>
>>> What are the Dune game and expansions worth to you?  Maybe you bought 
>>> them for $100 - so getting Eclipse and Whitechapel in trade would be a good 
>>> deal.  Versus trying to get Eclipse, Whitechapel and Alien Frontiers 
>>> because you've seen Dune and the expansions sell for high prices a few 
>>> times.
>>>
>>> Unless you desperately want a game, patience is a key virtue when it 
>>> comes to trading!.
>>>
>>> On Saturday, August 4, 2012 1:43:34 AM UTC-5, Wolfe13 wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Thanks Getaklue, (how ironic your name in this situation. Lol)
>>>>
>>>> Yes you are correct but I was talking expansions and right now the BGG 
>>>> price is $90= (I know that is value but not trade value) but as of 2 hours 
>>>> ago that was the only way to get the expansion, besides trading (so my 
>>>> reference to supply and demand)
>>>>
>>>> Trump,
>>>>
>>>> I agree if I am not playing a certain game I don't have a lot of value 
>>>> placed on it and may just want it so I will trade the farm, in the eyes of 
>>>> the recipient (supply and demand again)
>>>>
>>>> On Saturday, August 4, 2012 12:37:27 AM UTC-6, Getaklue wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry to say it - but I think you are off base.  I routinely go to the 
>>>>> GenCon auction and have seen copies of Dune sell for as little as $40.  I 
>>>>> recently picked up a copy of Dune and both expansions on-line (but not 
>>>>> Ebay) for $100.  If you are patient and do a lot of digging you can get 
>>>>> some pretty good prices on those titles.  In fact, I would think that I 
>>>>> was 
>>>>> getting a STEAL if someone wanted to trade Whitechapel, Eclipse and Alien 
>>>>> Fronties for my copy of Dune and both expansions.  Sorry but you may need 
>>>>> to look at the lowest, common prices for what you want to trade and not 
>>>>> the 
>>>>> pie-in-the-sky prices that sometimes you see on Ebay or BGG.  Trust me, 
>>>>> I've over-valued some of my games in the past too!
>>>>>
>>>>> Getaklue
>>>>>
>>>>> On Saturday, August 4, 2012 1:25:21 AM UTC-5, Wolfe13 wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Everyone thanks!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My issue is I have 2 complete copies of Dune (1 Sandworm and the 
>>>>>> other "Sandworm" but it is in a generic Avalon Hill box) and both 
>>>>>> expansions. I also have triplicates of all components, so If I had 
>>>>>> another 
>>>>>> game board and box I would have 3 games.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I fell that is worth, for sake of saying... Whitechapel, Eclipse and 
>>>>>> Alien Frontiers. Why you ask? The trader would get 1 complete copy he 
>>>>>> then 
>>>>>> could "flip" the expansions for $100 on eBay or $90+ on BGG. Am I being 
>>>>>> unreasonable? Is my "Dune" not worth what I think? Is it expecting to 
>>>>>> much 
>>>>>> to have the other person see that market to market they are getting a 
>>>>>> steal? Or am I way off base?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Friday, August 3, 2012 10:15:33 PM UTC-6, Wolfe13 wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When trading is it fair market, BGG market, eBay, Amazon or supply 
>>>>>>> and demand. Reason I ask is it seems I can not get a trade to work for 
>>>>>>> me 
>>>>>>> and the other party... frustrated
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>

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