Getaklue,

That is probably the most ahah moment I have had during this whole trading 
thing, but on eBay the prices are similar and you can't get it on Amazon, 
so at this time, there is no other benchmark. If the BGG was way lower, the 
eBay purchasers are just being naive, but it has steadily sold for that. So 
during this time the demand is high but I don't see the supply as high. So 
I think while White (rare out of print game $100, to me), Eclipse (in 
print, found it for $69 with $13 shipping, so I place it at $80) and Alien 
( $40 best price to demand I could come up with) = $100+$80+$40= $210. As 
of now and the last 2 days, the only way to get the expansions for dune was 
BGG $90+ or eBay $100+ both expansion equal the trade alone but you get 2 
copies of Dune, one you can also flip, and components galore. Maybe I am 
just plain wrong but I see it being sided to the person getting the "Dune" 
trade lot.

On Saturday, August 4, 2012 12:58:29 AM UTC-6, Getaklue wrote:
>
> In general, I don't think the BGG Marketplace is always a great indicator 
> of what a game is worth.  It's more a reflection of the maximum price that 
> someone might consider buying a game for.  For instance, if you wanted to 
> buy a game and people were selling it in the Marketplace for $50, $60 and 
> $70 (assuming similar conditions) you would buy it for $50.  So someone 
> coming along would look at the Marketplace and say - this game sells for 
> $60 - 70; and you would say - "That's crazy, I just bought it for $50."  
> The Marketplace is just a snapshot in time.  The best deals have already 
> been sold, so now you are looking at the prices that make people pause 
> before pulling the trigger - or the totally overpriced items that no one is 
> going to buy.
>
> What are the Dune game and expansions worth to you?  Maybe you bought them 
> for $100 - so getting Eclipse and Whitechapel in trade would be a good 
> deal.  Versus trying to get Eclipse, Whitechapel and Alien Frontiers 
> because you've seen Dune and the expansions sell for high prices a few 
> times.
>
> Unless you desperately want a game, patience is a key virtue when it comes 
> to trading!.
>
> On Saturday, August 4, 2012 1:43:34 AM UTC-5, Wolfe13 wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Getaklue, (how ironic your name in this situation. Lol)
>>
>> Yes you are correct but I was talking expansions and right now the BGG 
>> price is $90= (I know that is value but not trade value) but as of 2 hours 
>> ago that was the only way to get the expansion, besides trading (so my 
>> reference to supply and demand)
>>
>> Trump,
>>
>> I agree if I am not playing a certain game I don't have a lot of value 
>> placed on it and may just want it so I will trade the farm, in the eyes of 
>> the recipient (supply and demand again)
>>
>> On Saturday, August 4, 2012 12:37:27 AM UTC-6, Getaklue wrote:
>>>
>>> Sorry to say it - but I think you are off base.  I routinely go to the 
>>> GenCon auction and have seen copies of Dune sell for as little as $40.  I 
>>> recently picked up a copy of Dune and both expansions on-line (but not 
>>> Ebay) for $100.  If you are patient and do a lot of digging you can get 
>>> some pretty good prices on those titles.  In fact, I would think that I was 
>>> getting a STEAL if someone wanted to trade Whitechapel, Eclipse and Alien 
>>> Fronties for my copy of Dune and both expansions.  Sorry but you may need 
>>> to look at the lowest, common prices for what you want to trade and not the 
>>> pie-in-the-sky prices that sometimes you see on Ebay or BGG.  Trust me, 
>>> I've over-valued some of my games in the past too!
>>>
>>> Getaklue
>>>
>>> On Saturday, August 4, 2012 1:25:21 AM UTC-5, Wolfe13 wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Everyone thanks!
>>>>
>>>> My issue is I have 2 complete copies of Dune (1 Sandworm and the other 
>>>> "Sandworm" but it is in a generic Avalon Hill box) and both expansions. I 
>>>> also have triplicates of all components, so If I had another game board 
>>>> and 
>>>> box I would have 3 games.
>>>>
>>>> I fell that is worth, for sake of saying... Whitechapel, Eclipse and 
>>>> Alien Frontiers. Why you ask? The trader would get 1 complete copy he then 
>>>> could "flip" the expansions for $100 on eBay or $90+ on BGG. Am I being 
>>>> unreasonable? Is my "Dune" not worth what I think? Is it expecting to much 
>>>> to have the other person see that market to market they are getting a 
>>>> steal? Or am I way off base?
>>>>
>>>> On Friday, August 3, 2012 10:15:33 PM UTC-6, Wolfe13 wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> When trading is it fair market, BGG market, eBay, Amazon or supply and 
>>>>> demand. Reason I ask is it seems I can not get a trade to work for me and 
>>>>> the other party... frustrated
>>>>>
>>>>
On Saturday, August 4, 2012 12:58:29 AM UTC-6, Getaklue wrote:
>
> In general, I don't think the BGG Marketplace is always a great indicator 
> of what a game is worth.  It's more a reflection of the maximum price that 
> someone might consider buying a game for.  For instance, if you wanted to 
> buy a game and people were selling it in the Marketplace for $50, $60 and 
> $70 (assuming similar conditions) you would buy it for $50.  So someone 
> coming along would look at the Marketplace and say - this game sells for 
> $60 - 70; and you would say - "That's crazy, I just bought it for $50."  
> The Marketplace is just a snapshot in time.  The best deals have already 
> been sold, so now you are looking at the prices that make people pause 
> before pulling the trigger - or the totally overpriced items that no one is 
> going to buy.
>
> What are the Dune game and expansions worth to you?  Maybe you bought them 
> for $100 - so getting Eclipse and Whitechapel in trade would be a good 
> deal.  Versus trying to get Eclipse, Whitechapel and Alien Frontiers 
> because you've seen Dune and the expansions sell for high prices a few 
> times.
>
> Unless you desperately want a game, patience is a key virtue when it comes 
> to trading!.
>
> On Saturday, August 4, 2012 1:43:34 AM UTC-5, Wolfe13 wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Getaklue, (how ironic your name in this situation. Lol)
>>
>> Yes you are correct but I was talking expansions and right now the BGG 
>> price is $90= (I know that is value but not trade value) but as of 2 hours 
>> ago that was the only way to get the expansion, besides trading (so my 
>> reference to supply and demand)
>>
>> Trump,
>>
>> I agree if I am not playing a certain game I don't have a lot of value 
>> placed on it and may just want it so I will trade the farm, in the eyes of 
>> the recipient (supply and demand again)
>>
>> On Saturday, August 4, 2012 12:37:27 AM UTC-6, Getaklue wrote:
>>>
>>> Sorry to say it - but I think you are off base.  I routinely go to the 
>>> GenCon auction and have seen copies of Dune sell for as little as $40.  I 
>>> recently picked up a copy of Dune and both expansions on-line (but not 
>>> Ebay) for $100.  If you are patient and do a lot of digging you can get 
>>> some pretty good prices on those titles.  In fact, I would think that I was 
>>> getting a STEAL if someone wanted to trade Whitechapel, Eclipse and Alien 
>>> Fronties for my copy of Dune and both expansions.  Sorry but you may need 
>>> to look at the lowest, common prices for what you want to trade and not the 
>>> pie-in-the-sky prices that sometimes you see on Ebay or BGG.  Trust me, 
>>> I've over-valued some of my games in the past too!
>>>
>>> Getaklue
>>>
>>> On Saturday, August 4, 2012 1:25:21 AM UTC-5, Wolfe13 wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Everyone thanks!
>>>>
>>>> My issue is I have 2 complete copies of Dune (1 Sandworm and the other 
>>>> "Sandworm" but it is in a generic Avalon Hill box) and both expansions. I 
>>>> also have triplicates of all components, so If I had another game board 
>>>> and 
>>>> box I would have 3 games.
>>>>
>>>> I fell that is worth, for sake of saying... Whitechapel, Eclipse and 
>>>> Alien Frontiers. Why you ask? The trader would get 1 complete copy he then 
>>>> could "flip" the expansions for $100 on eBay or $90+ on BGG. Am I being 
>>>> unreasonable? Is my "Dune" not worth what I think? Is it expecting to much 
>>>> to have the other person see that market to market they are getting a 
>>>> steal? Or am I way off base?
>>>>
>>>> On Friday, August 3, 2012 10:15:33 PM UTC-6, Wolfe13 wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> When trading is it fair market, BGG market, eBay, Amazon or supply and 
>>>>> demand. Reason I ask is it seems I can not get a trade to work for me and 
>>>>> the other party... frustrated
>>>>>
>>>>

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