Amazon is not the best place to look for out of print games - I've had many I sold on eBay or on BGG which weren't on there.
I think the tough part with trading Dune w/ expansions for 3 games is I believe most people are looking to play games like Alien Frontiers, Letters from Whitechapel, and Eclipse more than the Dune bundle. Many people might just be content with base Dune or just Rex would satisfy that itch. It may actually be easier to sell the Dune bundle and then use that money to buy games you want. Finding that one person who wants Dune & expansions and has 3 games you want (and willing to do the trade) could be pretty slim and very time consuming On Saturday, August 4, 2012 2:34:26 AM UTC-5, Wolfe13 wrote: > > belial1134, > > So it is, but that is Dune. The expansion Dune: Spice Harvest is $199 > (ridonkulas!) on Amazon and there is no Dune: The Duel, so again that > satisfies my "supply and demand" theory, which just makes me feel is it all > not worth it? And I said the 2 expansion, at $100 are worth all 3 games. > and I also saw he had it the top of his want list, so I guess I am just > being to realistic hopping to get partial, rare, value of these items. I > assume then $50 for each exp and $50 for Dune + $50 for other copy of Dune > and components. That is half actual value and still equal to what is being > traded, and I assume still way off. That is why I only contact people who > have Dune and exp at the top of Wanted the #1 selection on wishlist. Seems > even that is asking to much. > > I am also the original owner and purchaser of all games and components. I > never paid over $100 for any of it. Well maybe buying the backup > components, because Avalon Hill was going under and I thought I would never > get any more components when the originals wore out or got damaged... hehe, > so with that, yes I spent more than $100. But in a "supply and demand" > scenario, price paid for supply is not relevant except in factoring the > "demand" price. Is that were my thinking goes.. whoooie? > > On Saturday, August 4, 2012 1:19:24 AM UTC-6, belial1134 wrote: >> >> Dune is available on Amazon..2 copies, the lowest is $150+$5.99 >> shipping. Of course as others have said, that is asking price and not what >> it necessarily sells for...but it is on there. >> >> Geekbay is the section on BGG where people list games for sale (usually >> in an auction format) via a geeklist >> >> >> >> On Saturday, August 4, 2012 2:11:56 AM UTC-5, Wolfe13 wrote: >>> >>> Getaklue, >>> >>> That is probably the most ahah moment I have had during this whole >>> trading thing, but on eBay the prices are similar and you can't get it on >>> Amazon, so at this time, there is no other benchmark. If the BGG was way >>> lower, the eBay purchasers are just being naive, but it has steadily sold >>> for that. So during this time the demand is high but I don't see the supply >>> as high. So I think while White (rare out of print game $100, to me), >>> Eclipse (in print, found it for $69 with $13 shipping, so I place it at >>> $80) and Alien ( $40 best price to demand I could come up with) = >>> $100+$80+$40= $210. As of now and the last 2 days, the only way to get the >>> expansions for dune was BGG $90+ or eBay $100+ both expansion equal the >>> trade alone but you get 2 copies of Dune, one you can also flip, and >>> components galore. Maybe I am just plain wrong but I see it being sided to >>> the person getting the "Dune" trade lot. >>> >>> On Saturday, August 4, 2012 12:58:29 AM UTC-6, Getaklue wrote: >>>> >>>> In general, I don't think the BGG Marketplace is always a great >>>> indicator of what a game is worth. It's more a reflection of the maximum >>>> price that someone might consider buying a game for. For instance, if you >>>> wanted to buy a game and people were selling it in the Marketplace for >>>> $50, >>>> $60 and $70 (assuming similar conditions) you would buy it for $50. So >>>> someone coming along would look at the Marketplace and say - this game >>>> sells for $60 - 70; and you would say - "That's crazy, I just bought it >>>> for >>>> $50." The Marketplace is just a snapshot in time. The best deals have >>>> already been sold, so now you are looking at the prices that make people >>>> pause before pulling the trigger - or the totally overpriced items that no >>>> one is going to buy. >>>> >>>> What are the Dune game and expansions worth to you? Maybe you bought >>>> them for $100 - so getting Eclipse and Whitechapel in trade would be a >>>> good >>>> deal. Versus trying to get Eclipse, Whitechapel and Alien Frontiers >>>> because you've seen Dune and the expansions sell for high prices a few >>>> times. >>>> >>>> Unless you desperately want a game, patience is a key virtue when it >>>> comes to trading!. >>>> >>>> On Saturday, August 4, 2012 1:43:34 AM UTC-5, Wolfe13 wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Thanks Getaklue, (how ironic your name in this situation. Lol) >>>>> >>>>> Yes you are correct but I was talking expansions and right now the BGG >>>>> price is $90= (I know that is value but not trade value) but as of 2 >>>>> hours >>>>> ago that was the only way to get the expansion, besides trading (so my >>>>> reference to supply and demand) >>>>> >>>>> Trump, >>>>> >>>>> I agree if I am not playing a certain game I don't have a lot of value >>>>> placed on it and may just want it so I will trade the farm, in the eyes >>>>> of >>>>> the recipient (supply and demand again) >>>>> >>>>> On Saturday, August 4, 2012 12:37:27 AM UTC-6, Getaklue wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Sorry to say it - but I think you are off base. I routinely go to >>>>>> the GenCon auction and have seen copies of Dune sell for as little as >>>>>> $40. >>>>>> I recently picked up a copy of Dune and both expansions on-line (but not >>>>>> Ebay) for $100. If you are patient and do a lot of digging you can get >>>>>> some pretty good prices on those titles. In fact, I would think that I >>>>>> was >>>>>> getting a STEAL if someone wanted to trade Whitechapel, Eclipse and >>>>>> Alien >>>>>> Fronties for my copy of Dune and both expansions. Sorry but you may >>>>>> need >>>>>> to look at the lowest, common prices for what you want to trade and not >>>>>> the >>>>>> pie-in-the-sky prices that sometimes you see on Ebay or BGG. Trust me, >>>>>> I've over-valued some of my games in the past too! >>>>>> >>>>>> Getaklue >>>>>> >>>>>> On Saturday, August 4, 2012 1:25:21 AM UTC-5, Wolfe13 wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Everyone thanks! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> My issue is I have 2 complete copies of Dune (1 Sandworm and the >>>>>>> other "Sandworm" but it is in a generic Avalon Hill box) and both >>>>>>> expansions. I also have triplicates of all components, so If I had >>>>>>> another >>>>>>> game board and box I would have 3 games. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I fell that is worth, for sake of saying... Whitechapel, Eclipse and >>>>>>> Alien Frontiers. Why you ask? The trader would get 1 complete copy he >>>>>>> then >>>>>>> could "flip" the expansions for $100 on eBay or $90+ on BGG. Am I being >>>>>>> unreasonable? Is my "Dune" not worth what I think? Is it expecting to >>>>>>> much >>>>>>> to have the other person see that market to market they are getting a >>>>>>> steal? Or am I way off base? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Friday, August 3, 2012 10:15:33 PM UTC-6, Wolfe13 wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> When trading is it fair market, BGG market, eBay, Amazon or supply >>>>>>>> and demand. Reason I ask is it seems I can not get a trade to work for >>>>>>>> me >>>>>>>> and the other party... frustrated >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>> On Saturday, August 4, 2012 12:58:29 AM UTC-6, Getaklue wrote: >>>> >>>> In general, I don't think the BGG Marketplace is always a great >>>> indicator of what a game is worth. It's more a reflection of the maximum >>>> price that someone might consider buying a game for. For instance, if you >>>> wanted to buy a game and people were selling it in the Marketplace for >>>> $50, >>>> $60 and $70 (assuming similar conditions) you would buy it for $50. So >>>> someone coming along would look at the Marketplace and say - this game >>>> sells for $60 - 70; and you would say - "That's crazy, I just bought it >>>> for >>>> $50." The Marketplace is just a snapshot in time. The best deals have >>>> already been sold, so now you are looking at the prices that make people >>>> pause before pulling the trigger - or the totally overpriced items that no >>>> one is going to buy. >>>> >>>> What are the Dune game and expansions worth to you? Maybe you bought >>>> them for $100 - so getting Eclipse and Whitechapel in trade would be a >>>> good >>>> deal. Versus trying to get Eclipse, Whitechapel and Alien Frontiers >>>> because you've seen Dune and the expansions sell for high prices a few >>>> times. >>>> >>>> Unless you desperately want a game, patience is a key virtue when it >>>> comes to trading!. >>>> >>>> On Saturday, August 4, 2012 1:43:34 AM UTC-5, Wolfe13 wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Thanks Getaklue, (how ironic your name in this situation. Lol) >>>>> >>>>> Yes you are correct but I was talking expansions and right now the BGG >>>>> price is $90= (I know that is value but not trade value) but as of 2 >>>>> hours >>>>> ago that was the only way to get the expansion, besides trading (so my >>>>> reference to supply and demand) >>>>> >>>>> Trump, >>>>> >>>>> I agree if I am not playing a certain game I don't have a lot of value >>>>> placed on it and may just want it so I will trade the farm, in the eyes >>>>> of >>>>> the recipient (supply and demand again) >>>>> >>>>> On Saturday, August 4, 2012 12:37:27 AM UTC-6, Getaklue wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Sorry to say it - but I think you are off base. I routinely go to >>>>>> the GenCon auction and have seen copies of Dune sell for as little as >>>>>> $40. >>>>>> I recently picked up a copy of Dune and both expansions on-line (but not >>>>>> Ebay) for $100. If you are patient and do a lot of digging you can get >>>>>> some pretty good prices on those titles. In fact, I would think that I >>>>>> was >>>>>> getting a STEAL if someone wanted to trade Whitechapel, Eclipse and >>>>>> Alien >>>>>> Fronties for my copy of Dune and both expansions. Sorry but you may >>>>>> need >>>>>> to look at the lowest, common prices for what you want to trade and not >>>>>> the >>>>>> pie-in-the-sky prices that sometimes you see on Ebay or BGG. Trust me, >>>>>> I've over-valued some of my games in the past too! >>>>>> >>>>>> Getaklue >>>>>> >>>>>> On Saturday, August 4, 2012 1:25:21 AM UTC-5, Wolfe13 wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Everyone thanks! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> My issue is I have 2 complete copies of Dune (1 Sandworm and the >>>>>>> other "Sandworm" but it is in a generic Avalon Hill box) and both >>>>>>> expansions. I also have triplicates of all components, so If I had >>>>>>> another >>>>>>> game board and box I would have 3 games. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I fell that is worth, for sake of saying... Whitechapel, Eclipse and >>>>>>> Alien Frontiers. Why you ask? The trader would get 1 complete copy he >>>>>>> then >>>>>>> could "flip" the expansions for $100 on eBay or $90+ on BGG. Am I being >>>>>>> unreasonable? Is my "Dune" not worth what I think? Is it expecting to >>>>>>> much >>>>>>> to have the other person see that market to market they are getting a >>>>>>> steal? Or am I way off base? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Friday, August 3, 2012 10:15:33 PM UTC-6, Wolfe13 wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> When trading is it fair market, BGG market, eBay, Amazon or supply >>>>>>>> and demand. Reason I ask is it seems I can not get a trade to work for >>>>>>>> me >>>>>>>> and the other party... frustrated >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "BGG Down" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/bgg_down/-/Kkna0GvqguUJ. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. 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