I was typing my response when you posted yours :) Yeah, try the Flea Market - you never know, if anything maybe someone will make a cash offer
Good luck :) On Saturday, August 4, 2012 2:53:12 AM UTC-5, Wolfe13 wrote: > > Getaklue, > > Thanks for all the advice! So it seems I am right, it is not worth it. I > have to sit on these and go through all the eBay crap and their ilk, or > sell all this for sub-par trade value. Not going to happen, so again bottom > line unless you want a downgraded trade don't initiate any trades. Follow > belial1334's advice, try the flea market. Yes I am sure the hypothetical > person would except this all for Whitechapel or Eclipse/Alien, but I would > not. > > Thanks everyone for all your suggestion and input, I will let all my > trades, except one ;), auto-decline and stop trying to contact them. To > much damn headache for an old retired disable Navy vet. Thanks again!! > > On Saturday, August 4, 2012 1:44:20 AM UTC-6, Getaklue wrote: >> >> Like I said, I spend a lot of time watching auctions (both live at >> conventions like GenCon and on-line). I just so happens that I have been >> watching Dune and the expansions, because I'm thinking of selling an extra >> copy of both Dune and the 2 expansions at GenCon in a couple of weeks. I >> was reviewing my notes from the last few years and only 2 years ago, a copy >> of Dune and Spice Harvest sold at the Con for $75. The year before copies >> of Dune sold for $75, $38 and $125. I haven't looked at last year's >> numbers yet, but I'm expecting them to be similar. Stop looking at all of >> the on-line prices and decide what you would be willing to part with your >> games for. If you payed $100 for Dune and the expansions and they're not >> getting played, trade them for $150 in games you will play - instead of >> trying to get $200 in games. Or be patient and spend the next 6 months >> getting that $200 in trade value. You can probably do it - it's just a >> matter if you want the games now or later! >> >> Good luck with your trades! >> >> >> >> On Saturday, August 4, 2012 2:34:26 AM UTC-5, Wolfe13 wrote: >>> >>> belial1134, >>> >>> So it is, but that is Dune. The expansion Dune: Spice Harvest is $199 >>> (ridonkulas!) on Amazon and there is no Dune: The Duel, so again that >>> satisfies my "supply and demand" theory, which just makes me feel is it all >>> not worth it? And I said the 2 expansion, at $100 are worth all 3 games. >>> and I also saw he had it the top of his want list, so I guess I am just >>> being to realistic hopping to get partial, rare, value of these items. I >>> assume then $50 for each exp and $50 for Dune + $50 for other copy of Dune >>> and components. That is half actual value and still equal to what is being >>> traded, and I assume still way off. That is why I only contact people who >>> have Dune and exp at the top of Wanted the #1 selection on wishlist. Seems >>> even that is asking to much. >>> >>> I am also the original owner and purchaser of all games and components. >>> I never paid over $100 for any of it. Well maybe buying the backup >>> components, because Avalon Hill was going under and I thought I would never >>> get any more components when the originals wore out or got damaged... hehe, >>> so with that, yes I spent more than $100. But in a "supply and demand" >>> scenario, price paid for supply is not relevant except in factoring the >>> "demand" price. Is that were my thinking goes.. whoooie? >>> >>> On Saturday, August 4, 2012 1:19:24 AM UTC-6, belial1134 wrote: >>>> >>>> Dune is available on Amazon..2 copies, the lowest is $150+$5.99 >>>> shipping. Of course as others have said, that is asking price and not >>>> what >>>> it necessarily sells for...but it is on there. >>>> >>>> Geekbay is the section on BGG where people list games for sale (usually >>>> in an auction format) via a geeklist >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Saturday, August 4, 2012 2:11:56 AM UTC-5, Wolfe13 wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Getaklue, >>>>> >>>>> That is probably the most ahah moment I have had during this whole >>>>> trading thing, but on eBay the prices are similar and you can't get it on >>>>> Amazon, so at this time, there is no other benchmark. If the BGG was way >>>>> lower, the eBay purchasers are just being naive, but it has steadily sold >>>>> for that. So during this time the demand is high but I don't see the >>>>> supply >>>>> as high. So I think while White (rare out of print game $100, to me), >>>>> Eclipse (in print, found it for $69 with $13 shipping, so I place it at >>>>> $80) and Alien ( $40 best price to demand I could come up with) = >>>>> $100+$80+$40= $210. As of now and the last 2 days, the only way to get >>>>> the >>>>> expansions for dune was BGG $90+ or eBay $100+ both expansion equal the >>>>> trade alone but you get 2 copies of Dune, one you can also flip, and >>>>> components galore. Maybe I am just plain wrong but I see it being sided >>>>> to >>>>> the person getting the "Dune" trade lot. >>>>> >>>>> On Saturday, August 4, 2012 12:58:29 AM UTC-6, Getaklue wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> In general, I don't think the BGG Marketplace is always a great >>>>>> indicator of what a game is worth. It's more a reflection of the >>>>>> maximum >>>>>> price that someone might consider buying a game for. For instance, if >>>>>> you >>>>>> wanted to buy a game and people were selling it in the Marketplace for >>>>>> $50, >>>>>> $60 and $70 (assuming similar conditions) you would buy it for $50. So >>>>>> someone coming along would look at the Marketplace and say - this game >>>>>> sells for $60 - 70; and you would say - "That's crazy, I just bought it >>>>>> for >>>>>> $50." The Marketplace is just a snapshot in time. The best deals have >>>>>> already been sold, so now you are looking at the prices that make people >>>>>> pause before pulling the trigger - or the totally overpriced items that >>>>>> no >>>>>> one is going to buy. >>>>>> >>>>>> What are the Dune game and expansions worth to you? Maybe you bought >>>>>> them for $100 - so getting Eclipse and Whitechapel in trade would be a >>>>>> good >>>>>> deal. Versus trying to get Eclipse, Whitechapel and Alien Frontiers >>>>>> because you've seen Dune and the expansions sell for high prices a few >>>>>> times. >>>>>> >>>>>> Unless you desperately want a game, patience is a key virtue when it >>>>>> comes to trading!. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Saturday, August 4, 2012 1:43:34 AM UTC-5, Wolfe13 wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks Getaklue, (how ironic your name in this situation. Lol) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yes you are correct but I was talking expansions and right now the >>>>>>> BGG price is $90= (I know that is value but not trade value) but as of >>>>>>> 2 >>>>>>> hours ago that was the only way to get the expansion, besides trading >>>>>>> (so >>>>>>> my reference to supply and demand) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Trump, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I agree if I am not playing a certain game I don't have a lot of >>>>>>> value placed on it and may just want it so I will trade the farm, in >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> eyes of the recipient (supply and demand again) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Saturday, August 4, 2012 12:37:27 AM UTC-6, Getaklue wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sorry to say it - but I think you are off base. I routinely go to >>>>>>>> the GenCon auction and have seen copies of Dune sell for as little as >>>>>>>> $40. >>>>>>>> I recently picked up a copy of Dune and both expansions on-line (but >>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>> Ebay) for $100. If you are patient and do a lot of digging you can >>>>>>>> get >>>>>>>> some pretty good prices on those titles. In fact, I would think that >>>>>>>> I was >>>>>>>> getting a STEAL if someone wanted to trade Whitechapel, Eclipse and >>>>>>>> Alien >>>>>>>> Fronties for my copy of Dune and both expansions. Sorry but you may >>>>>>>> need >>>>>>>> to look at the lowest, common prices for what you want to trade and >>>>>>>> not the >>>>>>>> pie-in-the-sky prices that sometimes you see on Ebay or BGG. Trust >>>>>>>> me, >>>>>>>> I've over-valued some of my games in the past too! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Getaklue >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Saturday, August 4, 2012 1:25:21 AM UTC-5, Wolfe13 wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Everyone thanks! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> My issue is I have 2 complete copies of Dune (1 Sandworm and the >>>>>>>>> other "Sandworm" but it is in a generic Avalon Hill box) and both >>>>>>>>> expansions. I also have triplicates of all components, so If I had >>>>>>>>> another >>>>>>>>> game board and box I would have 3 games. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I fell that is worth, for sake of saying... Whitechapel, Eclipse >>>>>>>>> and Alien Frontiers. Why you ask? The trader would get 1 complete >>>>>>>>> copy he >>>>>>>>> then could "flip" the expansions for $100 on eBay or $90+ on BGG. Am >>>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>>> being unreasonable? Is my "Dune" not worth what I think? Is it >>>>>>>>> expecting to >>>>>>>>> much to have the other person see that market to market they are >>>>>>>>> getting a >>>>>>>>> steal? Or am I way off base? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Friday, August 3, 2012 10:15:33 PM UTC-6, Wolfe13 wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> When trading is it fair market, BGG market, eBay, Amazon or >>>>>>>>>> supply and demand. Reason I ask is it seems I can not get a trade to >>>>>>>>>> work >>>>>>>>>> for me and the other party... frustrated >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>> On Saturday, August 4, 2012 12:58:29 AM UTC-6, Getaklue wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> In general, I don't think the BGG Marketplace is always a great >>>>>> indicator of what a game is worth. It's more a reflection of the >>>>>> maximum >>>>>> price that someone might consider buying a game for. For instance, if >>>>>> you >>>>>> wanted to buy a game and people were selling it in the Marketplace for >>>>>> $50, >>>>>> $60 and $70 (assuming similar conditions) you would buy it for $50. So >>>>>> someone coming along would look at the Marketplace and say - this game >>>>>> sells for $60 - 70; and you would say - "That's crazy, I just bought it >>>>>> for >>>>>> $50." The Marketplace is just a snapshot in time. The best deals have >>>>>> already been sold, so now you are looking at the prices that make people >>>>>> pause before pulling the trigger - or the totally overpriced items that >>>>>> no >>>>>> one is going to buy. >>>>>> >>>>>> What are the Dune game and expansions worth to you? Maybe you bought >>>>>> them for $100 - so getting Eclipse and Whitechapel in trade would be a >>>>>> good >>>>>> deal. Versus trying to get Eclipse, Whitechapel and Alien Frontiers >>>>>> because you've seen Dune and the expansions sell for high prices a few >>>>>> times. >>>>>> >>>>>> Unless you desperately want a game, patience is a key virtue when it >>>>>> comes to trading!. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Saturday, August 4, 2012 1:43:34 AM UTC-5, Wolfe13 wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks Getaklue, (how ironic your name in this situation. Lol) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yes you are correct but I was talking expansions and right now the >>>>>>> BGG price is $90= (I know that is value but not trade value) but as of >>>>>>> 2 >>>>>>> hours ago that was the only way to get the expansion, besides trading >>>>>>> (so >>>>>>> my reference to supply and demand) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Trump, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I agree if I am not playing a certain game I don't have a lot of >>>>>>> value placed on it and may just want it so I will trade the farm, in >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> eyes of the recipient (supply and demand again) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Saturday, August 4, 2012 12:37:27 AM UTC-6, Getaklue wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sorry to say it - but I think you are off base. I routinely go to >>>>>>>> the GenCon auction and have seen copies of Dune sell for as little as >>>>>>>> $40. >>>>>>>> I recently picked up a copy of Dune and both expansions on-line (but >>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>> Ebay) for $100. If you are patient and do a lot of digging you can >>>>>>>> get >>>>>>>> some pretty good prices on those titles. In fact, I would think that >>>>>>>> I was >>>>>>>> getting a STEAL if someone wanted to trade Whitechapel, Eclipse and >>>>>>>> Alien >>>>>>>> Fronties for my copy of Dune and both expansions. Sorry but you may >>>>>>>> need >>>>>>>> to look at the lowest, common prices for what you want to trade and >>>>>>>> not the >>>>>>>> pie-in-the-sky prices that sometimes you see on Ebay or BGG. Trust >>>>>>>> me, >>>>>>>> I've over-valued some of my games in the past too! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Getaklue >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Saturday, August 4, 2012 1:25:21 AM UTC-5, Wolfe13 wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Everyone thanks! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> My issue is I have 2 complete copies of Dune (1 Sandworm and the >>>>>>>>> other "Sandworm" but it is in a generic Avalon Hill box) and both >>>>>>>>> expansions. I also have triplicates of all components, so If I had >>>>>>>>> another >>>>>>>>> game board and box I would have 3 games. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I fell that is worth, for sake of saying... Whitechapel, Eclipse >>>>>>>>> and Alien Frontiers. Why you ask? The trader would get 1 complete >>>>>>>>> copy he >>>>>>>>> then could "flip" the expansions for $100 on eBay or $90+ on BGG. Am >>>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>>> being unreasonable? Is my "Dune" not worth what I think? Is it >>>>>>>>> expecting to >>>>>>>>> much to have the other person see that market to market they are >>>>>>>>> getting a >>>>>>>>> steal? Or am I way off base? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Friday, August 3, 2012 10:15:33 PM UTC-6, Wolfe13 wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> When trading is it fair market, BGG market, eBay, Amazon or >>>>>>>>>> supply and demand. Reason I ask is it seems I can not get a trade to >>>>>>>>>> work >>>>>>>>>> for me and the other party... frustrated >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "BGG Down" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/bgg_down/-/_zWoJKcNSV0J. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bgg_down?hl=en.
