Like I said, I spend a lot of time watching auctions (both live at conventions like GenCon and on-line). I just so happens that I have been watching Dune and the expansions, because I'm thinking of selling an extra copy of both Dune and the 2 expansions at GenCon in a couple of weeks. I was reviewing my notes from the last few years and only 2 years ago, a copy of Dune and Spice Harvest sold at the Con for $75. The year before copies of Dune sold for $75, $38 and $125. I haven't looked at last year's numbers yet, but I'm expecting them to be similar. Stop looking at all of the on-line prices and decide what you would be willing to part with your games for. If you payed $100 for Dune and the expansions and they're not getting played, trade them for $150 in games you will play - instead of trying to get $200 in games. Or be patient and spend the next 6 months getting that $200 in trade value. You can probably do it - it's just a matter if you want the games now or later!
Good luck with your trades! On Saturday, August 4, 2012 2:34:26 AM UTC-5, Wolfe13 wrote: > > belial1134, > > So it is, but that is Dune. The expansion Dune: Spice Harvest is $199 > (ridonkulas!) on Amazon and there is no Dune: The Duel, so again that > satisfies my "supply and demand" theory, which just makes me feel is it all > not worth it? And I said the 2 expansion, at $100 are worth all 3 games. > and I also saw he had it the top of his want list, so I guess I am just > being to realistic hopping to get partial, rare, value of these items. I > assume then $50 for each exp and $50 for Dune + $50 for other copy of Dune > and components. That is half actual value and still equal to what is being > traded, and I assume still way off. That is why I only contact people who > have Dune and exp at the top of Wanted the #1 selection on wishlist. Seems > even that is asking to much. > > I am also the original owner and purchaser of all games and components. I > never paid over $100 for any of it. Well maybe buying the backup > components, because Avalon Hill was going under and I thought I would never > get any more components when the originals wore out or got damaged... hehe, > so with that, yes I spent more than $100. But in a "supply and demand" > scenario, price paid for supply is not relevant except in factoring the > "demand" price. Is that were my thinking goes.. whoooie? > > On Saturday, August 4, 2012 1:19:24 AM UTC-6, belial1134 wrote: >> >> Dune is available on Amazon..2 copies, the lowest is $150+$5.99 >> shipping. Of course as others have said, that is asking price and not what >> it necessarily sells for...but it is on there. >> >> Geekbay is the section on BGG where people list games for sale (usually >> in an auction format) via a geeklist >> >> >> >> On Saturday, August 4, 2012 2:11:56 AM UTC-5, Wolfe13 wrote: >>> >>> Getaklue, >>> >>> That is probably the most ahah moment I have had during this whole >>> trading thing, but on eBay the prices are similar and you can't get it on >>> Amazon, so at this time, there is no other benchmark. If the BGG was way >>> lower, the eBay purchasers are just being naive, but it has steadily sold >>> for that. So during this time the demand is high but I don't see the supply >>> as high. So I think while White (rare out of print game $100, to me), >>> Eclipse (in print, found it for $69 with $13 shipping, so I place it at >>> $80) and Alien ( $40 best price to demand I could come up with) = >>> $100+$80+$40= $210. As of now and the last 2 days, the only way to get the >>> expansions for dune was BGG $90+ or eBay $100+ both expansion equal the >>> trade alone but you get 2 copies of Dune, one you can also flip, and >>> components galore. Maybe I am just plain wrong but I see it being sided to >>> the person getting the "Dune" trade lot. >>> >>> On Saturday, August 4, 2012 12:58:29 AM UTC-6, Getaklue wrote: >>>> >>>> In general, I don't think the BGG Marketplace is always a great >>>> indicator of what a game is worth. It's more a reflection of the maximum >>>> price that someone might consider buying a game for. For instance, if you >>>> wanted to buy a game and people were selling it in the Marketplace for >>>> $50, >>>> $60 and $70 (assuming similar conditions) you would buy it for $50. So >>>> someone coming along would look at the Marketplace and say - this game >>>> sells for $60 - 70; and you would say - "That's crazy, I just bought it >>>> for >>>> $50." The Marketplace is just a snapshot in time. The best deals have >>>> already been sold, so now you are looking at the prices that make people >>>> pause before pulling the trigger - or the totally overpriced items that no >>>> one is going to buy. >>>> >>>> What are the Dune game and expansions worth to you? Maybe you bought >>>> them for $100 - so getting Eclipse and Whitechapel in trade would be a >>>> good >>>> deal. Versus trying to get Eclipse, Whitechapel and Alien Frontiers >>>> because you've seen Dune and the expansions sell for high prices a few >>>> times. >>>> >>>> Unless you desperately want a game, patience is a key virtue when it >>>> comes to trading!. >>>> >>>> On Saturday, August 4, 2012 1:43:34 AM UTC-5, Wolfe13 wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Thanks Getaklue, (how ironic your name in this situation. Lol) >>>>> >>>>> Yes you are correct but I was talking expansions and right now the BGG >>>>> price is $90= (I know that is value but not trade value) but as of 2 >>>>> hours >>>>> ago that was the only way to get the expansion, besides trading (so my >>>>> reference to supply and demand) >>>>> >>>>> Trump, >>>>> >>>>> I agree if I am not playing a certain game I don't have a lot of value >>>>> placed on it and may just want it so I will trade the farm, in the eyes >>>>> of >>>>> the recipient (supply and demand again) >>>>> >>>>> On Saturday, August 4, 2012 12:37:27 AM UTC-6, Getaklue wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Sorry to say it - but I think you are off base. I routinely go to >>>>>> the GenCon auction and have seen copies of Dune sell for as little as >>>>>> $40. >>>>>> I recently picked up a copy of Dune and both expansions on-line (but not >>>>>> Ebay) for $100. If you are patient and do a lot of digging you can get >>>>>> some pretty good prices on those titles. In fact, I would think that I >>>>>> was >>>>>> getting a STEAL if someone wanted to trade Whitechapel, Eclipse and >>>>>> Alien >>>>>> Fronties for my copy of Dune and both expansions. Sorry but you may >>>>>> need >>>>>> to look at the lowest, common prices for what you want to trade and not >>>>>> the >>>>>> pie-in-the-sky prices that sometimes you see on Ebay or BGG. Trust me, >>>>>> I've over-valued some of my games in the past too! >>>>>> >>>>>> Getaklue >>>>>> >>>>>> On Saturday, August 4, 2012 1:25:21 AM UTC-5, Wolfe13 wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Everyone thanks! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> My issue is I have 2 complete copies of Dune (1 Sandworm and the >>>>>>> other "Sandworm" but it is in a generic Avalon Hill box) and both >>>>>>> expansions. I also have triplicates of all components, so If I had >>>>>>> another >>>>>>> game board and box I would have 3 games. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I fell that is worth, for sake of saying... Whitechapel, Eclipse and >>>>>>> Alien Frontiers. Why you ask? The trader would get 1 complete copy he >>>>>>> then >>>>>>> could "flip" the expansions for $100 on eBay or $90+ on BGG. Am I being >>>>>>> unreasonable? Is my "Dune" not worth what I think? Is it expecting to >>>>>>> much >>>>>>> to have the other person see that market to market they are getting a >>>>>>> steal? Or am I way off base? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Friday, August 3, 2012 10:15:33 PM UTC-6, Wolfe13 wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> When trading is it fair market, BGG market, eBay, Amazon or supply >>>>>>>> and demand. Reason I ask is it seems I can not get a trade to work for >>>>>>>> me >>>>>>>> and the other party... frustrated >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>> On Saturday, August 4, 2012 12:58:29 AM UTC-6, Getaklue wrote: >>>> >>>> In general, I don't think the BGG Marketplace is always a great >>>> indicator of what a game is worth. It's more a reflection of the maximum >>>> price that someone might consider buying a game for. For instance, if you >>>> wanted to buy a game and people were selling it in the Marketplace for >>>> $50, >>>> $60 and $70 (assuming similar conditions) you would buy it for $50. So >>>> someone coming along would look at the Marketplace and say - this game >>>> sells for $60 - 70; and you would say - "That's crazy, I just bought it >>>> for >>>> $50." The Marketplace is just a snapshot in time. The best deals have >>>> already been sold, so now you are looking at the prices that make people >>>> pause before pulling the trigger - or the totally overpriced items that no >>>> one is going to buy. >>>> >>>> What are the Dune game and expansions worth to you? Maybe you bought >>>> them for $100 - so getting Eclipse and Whitechapel in trade would be a >>>> good >>>> deal. Versus trying to get Eclipse, Whitechapel and Alien Frontiers >>>> because you've seen Dune and the expansions sell for high prices a few >>>> times. >>>> >>>> Unless you desperately want a game, patience is a key virtue when it >>>> comes to trading!. >>>> >>>> On Saturday, August 4, 2012 1:43:34 AM UTC-5, Wolfe13 wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Thanks Getaklue, (how ironic your name in this situation. Lol) >>>>> >>>>> Yes you are correct but I was talking expansions and right now the BGG >>>>> price is $90= (I know that is value but not trade value) but as of 2 >>>>> hours >>>>> ago that was the only way to get the expansion, besides trading (so my >>>>> reference to supply and demand) >>>>> >>>>> Trump, >>>>> >>>>> I agree if I am not playing a certain game I don't have a lot of value >>>>> placed on it and may just want it so I will trade the farm, in the eyes >>>>> of >>>>> the recipient (supply and demand again) >>>>> >>>>> On Saturday, August 4, 2012 12:37:27 AM UTC-6, Getaklue wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Sorry to say it - but I think you are off base. I routinely go to >>>>>> the GenCon auction and have seen copies of Dune sell for as little as >>>>>> $40. >>>>>> I recently picked up a copy of Dune and both expansions on-line (but not >>>>>> Ebay) for $100. If you are patient and do a lot of digging you can get >>>>>> some pretty good prices on those titles. In fact, I would think that I >>>>>> was >>>>>> getting a STEAL if someone wanted to trade Whitechapel, Eclipse and >>>>>> Alien >>>>>> Fronties for my copy of Dune and both expansions. Sorry but you may >>>>>> need >>>>>> to look at the lowest, common prices for what you want to trade and not >>>>>> the >>>>>> pie-in-the-sky prices that sometimes you see on Ebay or BGG. Trust me, >>>>>> I've over-valued some of my games in the past too! >>>>>> >>>>>> Getaklue >>>>>> >>>>>> On Saturday, August 4, 2012 1:25:21 AM UTC-5, Wolfe13 wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Everyone thanks! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> My issue is I have 2 complete copies of Dune (1 Sandworm and the >>>>>>> other "Sandworm" but it is in a generic Avalon Hill box) and both >>>>>>> expansions. I also have triplicates of all components, so If I had >>>>>>> another >>>>>>> game board and box I would have 3 games. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I fell that is worth, for sake of saying... Whitechapel, Eclipse and >>>>>>> Alien Frontiers. Why you ask? The trader would get 1 complete copy he >>>>>>> then >>>>>>> could "flip" the expansions for $100 on eBay or $90+ on BGG. Am I being >>>>>>> unreasonable? Is my "Dune" not worth what I think? Is it expecting to >>>>>>> much >>>>>>> to have the other person see that market to market they are getting a >>>>>>> steal? Or am I way off base? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Friday, August 3, 2012 10:15:33 PM UTC-6, Wolfe13 wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> When trading is it fair market, BGG market, eBay, Amazon or supply >>>>>>>> and demand. Reason I ask is it seems I can not get a trade to work for >>>>>>>> me >>>>>>>> and the other party... frustrated >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "BGG Down" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/bgg_down/-/hzcN6VarXzwJ. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. 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