Getaklue, Thanks for all the advice! So it seems I am right, it is not worth it. I have to sit on these and go through all the eBay crap and their ilk, or sell all this for sub-par trade value. Not going to happen, so again bottom line unless you want a downgraded trade don't initiate any trades. Follow belial1334's advice, try the flea market. Yes I am sure the hypothetical person would except this all for Whitechapel or Eclipse/Alien, but I would not.
Thanks everyone for all your suggestion and input, I will let all my trades, except one ;), auto-decline and stop trying to contact them. To much damn headache for an old retired disable Navy vet. Thanks again!! On Saturday, August 4, 2012 1:44:20 AM UTC-6, Getaklue wrote: > > Like I said, I spend a lot of time watching auctions (both live at > conventions like GenCon and on-line). I just so happens that I have been > watching Dune and the expansions, because I'm thinking of selling an extra > copy of both Dune and the 2 expansions at GenCon in a couple of weeks. I > was reviewing my notes from the last few years and only 2 years ago, a copy > of Dune and Spice Harvest sold at the Con for $75. The year before copies > of Dune sold for $75, $38 and $125. I haven't looked at last year's > numbers yet, but I'm expecting them to be similar. Stop looking at all of > the on-line prices and decide what you would be willing to part with your > games for. If you payed $100 for Dune and the expansions and they're not > getting played, trade them for $150 in games you will play - instead of > trying to get $200 in games. Or be patient and spend the next 6 months > getting that $200 in trade value. You can probably do it - it's just a > matter if you want the games now or later! > > Good luck with your trades! > > > > On Saturday, August 4, 2012 2:34:26 AM UTC-5, Wolfe13 wrote: >> >> belial1134, >> >> So it is, but that is Dune. The expansion Dune: Spice Harvest is $199 >> (ridonkulas!) on Amazon and there is no Dune: The Duel, so again that >> satisfies my "supply and demand" theory, which just makes me feel is it all >> not worth it? And I said the 2 expansion, at $100 are worth all 3 games. >> and I also saw he had it the top of his want list, so I guess I am just >> being to realistic hopping to get partial, rare, value of these items. I >> assume then $50 for each exp and $50 for Dune + $50 for other copy of Dune >> and components. That is half actual value and still equal to what is being >> traded, and I assume still way off. That is why I only contact people who >> have Dune and exp at the top of Wanted the #1 selection on wishlist. Seems >> even that is asking to much. >> >> I am also the original owner and purchaser of all games and components. I >> never paid over $100 for any of it. Well maybe buying the backup >> components, because Avalon Hill was going under and I thought I would never >> get any more components when the originals wore out or got damaged... hehe, >> so with that, yes I spent more than $100. But in a "supply and demand" >> scenario, price paid for supply is not relevant except in factoring the >> "demand" price. Is that were my thinking goes.. whoooie? >> >> On Saturday, August 4, 2012 1:19:24 AM UTC-6, belial1134 wrote: >>> >>> Dune is available on Amazon..2 copies, the lowest is $150+$5.99 >>> shipping. Of course as others have said, that is asking price and not what >>> it necessarily sells for...but it is on there. >>> >>> Geekbay is the section on BGG where people list games for sale (usually >>> in an auction format) via a geeklist >>> >>> >>> >>> On Saturday, August 4, 2012 2:11:56 AM UTC-5, Wolfe13 wrote: >>>> >>>> Getaklue, >>>> >>>> That is probably the most ahah moment I have had during this whole >>>> trading thing, but on eBay the prices are similar and you can't get it on >>>> Amazon, so at this time, there is no other benchmark. If the BGG was way >>>> lower, the eBay purchasers are just being naive, but it has steadily sold >>>> for that. So during this time the demand is high but I don't see the >>>> supply >>>> as high. So I think while White (rare out of print game $100, to me), >>>> Eclipse (in print, found it for $69 with $13 shipping, so I place it at >>>> $80) and Alien ( $40 best price to demand I could come up with) = >>>> $100+$80+$40= $210. As of now and the last 2 days, the only way to get the >>>> expansions for dune was BGG $90+ or eBay $100+ both expansion equal the >>>> trade alone but you get 2 copies of Dune, one you can also flip, and >>>> components galore. Maybe I am just plain wrong but I see it being sided to >>>> the person getting the "Dune" trade lot. >>>> >>>> On Saturday, August 4, 2012 12:58:29 AM UTC-6, Getaklue wrote: >>>>> >>>>> In general, I don't think the BGG Marketplace is always a great >>>>> indicator of what a game is worth. It's more a reflection of the maximum >>>>> price that someone might consider buying a game for. For instance, if >>>>> you >>>>> wanted to buy a game and people were selling it in the Marketplace for >>>>> $50, >>>>> $60 and $70 (assuming similar conditions) you would buy it for $50. So >>>>> someone coming along would look at the Marketplace and say - this game >>>>> sells for $60 - 70; and you would say - "That's crazy, I just bought it >>>>> for >>>>> $50." The Marketplace is just a snapshot in time. The best deals have >>>>> already been sold, so now you are looking at the prices that make people >>>>> pause before pulling the trigger - or the totally overpriced items that >>>>> no >>>>> one is going to buy. >>>>> >>>>> What are the Dune game and expansions worth to you? Maybe you bought >>>>> them for $100 - so getting Eclipse and Whitechapel in trade would be a >>>>> good >>>>> deal. Versus trying to get Eclipse, Whitechapel and Alien Frontiers >>>>> because you've seen Dune and the expansions sell for high prices a few >>>>> times. >>>>> >>>>> Unless you desperately want a game, patience is a key virtue when it >>>>> comes to trading!. >>>>> >>>>> On Saturday, August 4, 2012 1:43:34 AM UTC-5, Wolfe13 wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks Getaklue, (how ironic your name in this situation. Lol) >>>>>> >>>>>> Yes you are correct but I was talking expansions and right now the >>>>>> BGG price is $90= (I know that is value but not trade value) but as of 2 >>>>>> hours ago that was the only way to get the expansion, besides trading >>>>>> (so >>>>>> my reference to supply and demand) >>>>>> >>>>>> Trump, >>>>>> >>>>>> I agree if I am not playing a certain game I don't have a lot of >>>>>> value placed on it and may just want it so I will trade the farm, in the >>>>>> eyes of the recipient (supply and demand again) >>>>>> >>>>>> On Saturday, August 4, 2012 12:37:27 AM UTC-6, Getaklue wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sorry to say it - but I think you are off base. I routinely go to >>>>>>> the GenCon auction and have seen copies of Dune sell for as little as >>>>>>> $40. >>>>>>> I recently picked up a copy of Dune and both expansions on-line (but >>>>>>> not >>>>>>> Ebay) for $100. If you are patient and do a lot of digging you can get >>>>>>> some pretty good prices on those titles. In fact, I would think that I >>>>>>> was >>>>>>> getting a STEAL if someone wanted to trade Whitechapel, Eclipse and >>>>>>> Alien >>>>>>> Fronties for my copy of Dune and both expansions. Sorry but you may >>>>>>> need >>>>>>> to look at the lowest, common prices for what you want to trade and not >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> pie-in-the-sky prices that sometimes you see on Ebay or BGG. Trust me, >>>>>>> I've over-valued some of my games in the past too! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Getaklue >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Saturday, August 4, 2012 1:25:21 AM UTC-5, Wolfe13 wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Everyone thanks! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> My issue is I have 2 complete copies of Dune (1 Sandworm and the >>>>>>>> other "Sandworm" but it is in a generic Avalon Hill box) and both >>>>>>>> expansions. I also have triplicates of all components, so If I had >>>>>>>> another >>>>>>>> game board and box I would have 3 games. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I fell that is worth, for sake of saying... Whitechapel, Eclipse >>>>>>>> and Alien Frontiers. Why you ask? The trader would get 1 complete copy >>>>>>>> he >>>>>>>> then could "flip" the expansions for $100 on eBay or $90+ on BGG. Am I >>>>>>>> being unreasonable? Is my "Dune" not worth what I think? Is it >>>>>>>> expecting to >>>>>>>> much to have the other person see that market to market they are >>>>>>>> getting a >>>>>>>> steal? Or am I way off base? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Friday, August 3, 2012 10:15:33 PM UTC-6, Wolfe13 wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> When trading is it fair market, BGG market, eBay, Amazon or supply >>>>>>>>> and demand. Reason I ask is it seems I can not get a trade to work >>>>>>>>> for me >>>>>>>>> and the other party... frustrated >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> On Saturday, August 4, 2012 12:58:29 AM UTC-6, Getaklue wrote: >>>>> >>>>> In general, I don't think the BGG Marketplace is always a great >>>>> indicator of what a game is worth. It's more a reflection of the maximum >>>>> price that someone might consider buying a game for. For instance, if >>>>> you >>>>> wanted to buy a game and people were selling it in the Marketplace for >>>>> $50, >>>>> $60 and $70 (assuming similar conditions) you would buy it for $50. So >>>>> someone coming along would look at the Marketplace and say - this game >>>>> sells for $60 - 70; and you would say - "That's crazy, I just bought it >>>>> for >>>>> $50." The Marketplace is just a snapshot in time. The best deals have >>>>> already been sold, so now you are looking at the prices that make people >>>>> pause before pulling the trigger - or the totally overpriced items that >>>>> no >>>>> one is going to buy. >>>>> >>>>> What are the Dune game and expansions worth to you? Maybe you bought >>>>> them for $100 - so getting Eclipse and Whitechapel in trade would be a >>>>> good >>>>> deal. Versus trying to get Eclipse, Whitechapel and Alien Frontiers >>>>> because you've seen Dune and the expansions sell for high prices a few >>>>> times. >>>>> >>>>> Unless you desperately want a game, patience is a key virtue when it >>>>> comes to trading!. >>>>> >>>>> On Saturday, August 4, 2012 1:43:34 AM UTC-5, Wolfe13 wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks Getaklue, (how ironic your name in this situation. Lol) >>>>>> >>>>>> Yes you are correct but I was talking expansions and right now the >>>>>> BGG price is $90= (I know that is value but not trade value) but as of 2 >>>>>> hours ago that was the only way to get the expansion, besides trading >>>>>> (so >>>>>> my reference to supply and demand) >>>>>> >>>>>> Trump, >>>>>> >>>>>> I agree if I am not playing a certain game I don't have a lot of >>>>>> value placed on it and may just want it so I will trade the farm, in the >>>>>> eyes of the recipient (supply and demand again) >>>>>> >>>>>> On Saturday, August 4, 2012 12:37:27 AM UTC-6, Getaklue wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sorry to say it - but I think you are off base. I routinely go to >>>>>>> the GenCon auction and have seen copies of Dune sell for as little as >>>>>>> $40. >>>>>>> I recently picked up a copy of Dune and both expansions on-line (but >>>>>>> not >>>>>>> Ebay) for $100. If you are patient and do a lot of digging you can get >>>>>>> some pretty good prices on those titles. In fact, I would think that I >>>>>>> was >>>>>>> getting a STEAL if someone wanted to trade Whitechapel, Eclipse and >>>>>>> Alien >>>>>>> Fronties for my copy of Dune and both expansions. Sorry but you may >>>>>>> need >>>>>>> to look at the lowest, common prices for what you want to trade and not >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> pie-in-the-sky prices that sometimes you see on Ebay or BGG. Trust me, >>>>>>> I've over-valued some of my games in the past too! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Getaklue >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Saturday, August 4, 2012 1:25:21 AM UTC-5, Wolfe13 wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Everyone thanks! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> My issue is I have 2 complete copies of Dune (1 Sandworm and the >>>>>>>> other "Sandworm" but it is in a generic Avalon Hill box) and both >>>>>>>> expansions. I also have triplicates of all components, so If I had >>>>>>>> another >>>>>>>> game board and box I would have 3 games. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I fell that is worth, for sake of saying... Whitechapel, Eclipse >>>>>>>> and Alien Frontiers. Why you ask? The trader would get 1 complete copy >>>>>>>> he >>>>>>>> then could "flip" the expansions for $100 on eBay or $90+ on BGG. Am I >>>>>>>> being unreasonable? Is my "Dune" not worth what I think? Is it >>>>>>>> expecting to >>>>>>>> much to have the other person see that market to market they are >>>>>>>> getting a >>>>>>>> steal? Or am I way off base? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Friday, August 3, 2012 10:15:33 PM UTC-6, Wolfe13 wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> When trading is it fair market, BGG market, eBay, Amazon or supply >>>>>>>>> and demand. Reason I ask is it seems I can not get a trade to work >>>>>>>>> for me >>>>>>>>> and the other party... frustrated >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "BGG Down" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/bgg_down/-/1RyF7oND7z4J. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. 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