On Friday, December 21, 2007, at 11:59AM, "Michael McCracken" <[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Dec 21, 2007 10:47 AM, Alexander H. Montgomery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I think that the current setup is probably optimal; for those who wish
>> to view their papers, the Preview pane can be set to "linked
>> file" (perhaps there should be a way of selecting which linked file is
>> displayed?), while the existing thumbnails should be good enough to
>> identify which of several items is the one that you want to look at.
>>
>> Another option would be to just have an optional setting to put the
>> bottom pane on the right-hand-side for those of us with very wide
>> monitors; some people prefer Mail to be in a three-pane side-by-side
>> format, this might benefit as well.
>
>This is interesting - I bet almost everyone with a recent mac or LCD
>screen has a wide format monitor, so how can we improve the layout for
>that case?

Right!  My 3 year old PowerBook has a wide screen, but I think BD is still 
oriented towards a square screen.

>Although I like having lots of columns of info in BibDesk, the
>vertically stacked master-detail view has always seemed cramped, and
>making the window wider doesn't improve it much.
>
>I liked the mockup Adam showed - I do think that the format of
>references in papers is easier to read than single line tableview
>rows. I don't think we'd want two views of the table selection, though
>- the new right-side summary view in his mockup seemed like another
>table view to me. 

That's exactly what it was :).  I agree that having two table views of the same 
information is weird, and what I'm looking for could also be solved by having a 
"citation" column in the main table that showed a formatted reference.  If that 
were available, I'd close the bottom preview pane and dedicate it to 
annote/abstract.

>However, in some ways, that summary view actually
>seems like a better 'main view' than the table view...
>
>If we had a three-column layout, the extra vertical pixels we buy in
>the middle column could be spent on a table view with one column but
>>1 line(s) of text per item row, something like the right side of
>Adam's mockup, which I liked.

The problem I see is that it's not sortable.  99% of what I've done with 
sorting I could also do with groups/search, so maybe I need to adjust my old 
habits.  
OTOH, sorting by year or by index is pretty useful, for instance.  I guess we 
could use a popup table header allowing you to choose the sort criteria, but 
that might not be very discoverable.  Just think of all the code we could 
remove if we went to a single table column...

>Of course, nobody's going to agree on what data goes in that wide
>tableview so it'd have to be templated, and that's plenty of work (or
>is it?)

Christiaan has done some stellar work on making templates editable by mere 
mortals, and they're also extremely flexible.  Since you can ask a BibItem for 
a templated attributed string, I'd guess that the hard work is done.

-- 
adam

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