Eric, you are so woefully misinformed about the money. Let me help paint a
clearer picture:

 

1.The City of Madison bicycle registration fee costs $10/four years, or
$2.50/year. My ~3000 lb car's registration fee is $75 annually. So, since one
purpose of the registration fee is to pay for building and maintaining roads,
and the weight of the vehicle and the miles traveled on the road are some of
the biggest determinants of the costs of maintenance, then a "comparable"
bicycle license fee, based on the weight of the vehicle, would be roughly 30
lbs/3000 lbs x $75 annually, or 75 cents/year. In other words, bikes are
ALREADY required to pay more than three times a proportionally "comparable"
license fee.

 

2. As I have previously posted to this list, a study commissioned by WisDOT
in the 1990s concluded that fuel taxes and vehicle registration fees
accounted for 56% of the costs of public roads. 44% of the cost of roads is
paid for with something other than fuel taxes and vehicle registration, aka
user fees. In Wisconsin this means primarily property taxes, which everyone
pays directly or indirectly. "Program funding" for motor vehicles is
therefore NOT tied to vehicle registration fees, or even registration fees
plus fuel taxes. So why should bicycles be held to a different standard?

 

Because motor vehicle user fees pay for 56% of the cost of roads, I suggest
we dedicate 56% of the space on roadways to the EXCLUSIVE use of motor
vehicles - no bikes or pedestrians allowed on that 56% of the space. The rest
of the space, 44% of the roadway, should be divided more or less equally
between all road users (yes, including motor vehicles would be fair), since
everyone pays for that 44% through property taxes.

 

Until the fact that public roads have to be subsidized (at approximately the
same rate as public transit), any talk about bicycles (or pedestrians) not
paying their share of the roads is simply ignorance of the facts.

 

Chuck

________________________________

From: Eric Westhagen [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 12:44 PM
To: STRAWSER, Charles; BikiesSubmissions
Subject: Re: [Bikies] Bicycle Counts (was Question on bicycle traffic counts)

 

Dear Group,



For the past week this debate and list of suggestions about bike counts and
direction of spending for bike infrastructure avoids the real question of
payments.  I have not commented before on your local Madison bike issues and
advocacy groups have made Madison into one of the few "biking cities" in the
country.  Yet there is a constant theme that "auto drivers" don't like
bicyclists?  And why might that be?  Certainly most rode some type of bikes
as children.  They are pedestrians part of their current lives--so just why?
They feel it is "us or they?"  Certainly that is the general opinion
expressed in this listserv--"us or they"--"us or those big bad SUVs."



And all sorts of hockus-pokus can be put forth to show why bikes deserve all
the spending they have gotten in the greater Madison area.  Nevertheless--the
bikes are a minority--an elite, if you will.  So, why not have a real money
raising license fee?  Then bikes can put their heads up high and declare to
autos that they are really on equal footing in the payments department.  Why
not an annual fee with fines for non compliance?  There is still no gas tax
money--but a comparable annual bike license fee would go along way toward
making a case for bike infrastructure.  



>From the Web at the close of '07 was this:----  "[In Wisconsin, state law
prohibits officials from collecting more in bike registration fees than it
costs to run the registration program, said Arthur Ross, pedestrian-bike
coordinator for the city of Madison. The best-known pay-off of that city's
mandatory registration is also enabling police to return stolen bikes, Ross
said. 



"Certainly, I would not want to see program funding tied to bike
registration," Ross added. "We need a whole lot more money than were ever
going to raise through bicycle registration." 



In Madison, about 20,000 bikes have valid registrations, said John Rider,
bicycle registration coordinator. The $10 registration lasts four years. The
program helps transportation planners, "get a handle on how many bicycles we
have in the city so we can have some more say in trying to have bicycle
facilities," Rider said. "It gives us a voice." 



It was pressure from cycling advocates that eventually led Minnesota
lawmakers to repeal that state's registration program several years ago, said
Anderson, the bicycle and pedestrian coordinator. ]" ----------. . .
.--------



Eric




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