Sounds very sensible to me. What I'm hearing is that the city wants to scatter some bright lights because they think it will be cheaper than the subdued lighting, which would require more poles to provide adequate lighting. They also claim that the shorter poles will be vandalized and hit by snow plows. Why a shorter pole with subdued light would be more likely to be vandalized than a taller pole with bright light that the neighbors hate is totally beyond me. And, I don't think anybody would object to incorporating flags in the design to give additional notice to the snow plow drivers. ---
Robert F. Nagel, Attorney Law Offices of Robert Nagel [email protected] www.nagel-law.com Thirty on the Square, 10th Floor 30 W. Mifflin St., Suite 1001 Madison, WI 53703 608-255-1501 office 608-255-1504 fax 608-438-9501 cell On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 10:43 PM, George Perkins <[email protected]>wrote: > When I originally wondered (on this list, to my Alder, and to the City > project site) why the city hasn’t considered a design that follows the DOT > guidelines for lighting a bike and pedestrian path, I never really did get > a satisfactory answer. The City may have had this discussion internally, > but for whatever reason has not made it a public discussion. If the SW path > is going to be given lighting, then let’s do it right. The powerpoint > presentation on the project web site only off-handedly indicates bollard > style lamp posts are a maintenance problem, but doesn’t substantiate that > concern with facts and figures. If there are valid reasons why DOT lighting > guidelines don’t make sense from an engineering (physical and social), I’d > like to hear them and the city should lobby to have the DOT guidelines > updated accordingly. Perhaps a good lighting design would cost more and > budgets are tight. Let’s not do it wrong just to spend the money in this > year’s budget and wind up with an inferior (or unsafe) result. If doing it > right costs more, maybe the path can be lit in stages, do what you can with > the money on hand, leave the rest until later?**** > > _______________________________________________ > Bikies mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.danenet.org/listinfo.cgi/bikies-danenet.org > >
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