My daily commute includes these very heavily used official bike routes: King St leading up to the square http://veloroutes.org/hillgradecalculator/?loc1=299+King+St+MADISON+WI&loc2=102+King+St+MADISON+WI&units=e (4.3% grade) and Carroll St on the square: http://veloroutes.org/hillgradecalculator/?loc1=30+N+Carrooll+St+MADISON+WI&loc2=22+S+Carroll+St+MADISON+WI&units=e (4.5% grade)
the hilly parts of Observatory Drive are not official bike routes according to the city map (though obviously that does not keep many cyclists from using it). http://www.sfbike.org/ San Francisco Bicycle Coalition can give you much more impressive grades, I'm sure. chuck From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of India Viola Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2014 12:30 PM To: Grant Foster Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Bikies] Can anybody tell me which bike route/path/lane/boulevard has the steepest grade? Other nominees: Observatory Drive King Street from Wilson Street up to the Capitol Square And the hill leading into Blue Mounds State Park Matthew, Who are the "they" that you are talking about? Car commuters? Transportation planners? City officials? Your dialog may be different with each naysaying group. I recommend that you find a biking group in San Francisco and pose a similar question to them. You could also reach out to the League of American Bicyclists<http://www.bikeleague.org/> (LAB). They love data and advocating for bike commuting in the states (and beyond, I would bet). india From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Matthew Berigan Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2014 12:25 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Bikies] Can anybody tell me which bike route/path/lane/boulevard has the steepest grade? This is great and I like the Strava segment because I'm hoping for exactly that kind of detail. I wish it had min/max gradient. You all are refreshing my memory and I double-check against the interactive map which shows actual routes. Dave - I see that Edgewood Ave. isn't officially a route BUT it is a killer. I think that Seminole (Arboretum entrance to the Beltline) probably has a heftier gradient than Old Sauk (Old Middleton to trail entrance) - opinions? The place that always stopped me was the street bike route up Glenway St from Monroe to the trail. It is short but the grade was always a stopper for me. I just tried the google map bike route planning thing for Madison but it overshot the capacity of my Internet connection (pretty slow) yet the route for bike is substantially different than the same to/from for car. I wonder if google works in topological data. Thanks for all of the feedback. If there are other tools being used (Strava was listed) please post those too. MattB On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 2:57 PM, Dave <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Edgewood Ave. coming out of Vilas Park up to Monroe street.. From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf Of Dorothy Krause Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2014 11:55 AM To: 'Dave Minden'; 'Mark Clear'; [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Bikies] Can anybody tell me which bike route/path/lane/boulevard has the steepest grade? What's the grade coming up Seminole Highway south of the beltline? Dorothy Krause Dane County Board of Supervisors Fitchburg Common Council [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 608-271-7532 http://friendsofdorothykrause.com From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dave Minden Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2014 11:52 AM To: Mark Clear; [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Bikies] Can anybody tell me which bike route/path/lane/boulevard has the steepest grade? If you count the surrounding area (ridden by many cyclists in Madison) my GPS-bike computer registered highest on Timber Lane just south of Mauer Road, at 21% grade. This is the highest I've seen, including my riding on Forest Service roads in the North Cascades, OR! Dave ________________________________ From: Mark Clear <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, February 6, 2014 11:35 AM Subject: Re: [Bikies] Can anybody tell me which bike route/path/lane/boulevard has the steepest grade? Don't know whether it's the steepest grade in the city, but Old Sauk Road between Old Middleton and Ozark Trail is about 12%. And I curse it every day. Mark C. On 2/6/2014 11:15 AM Matthew Berigan wrote: Hi! The city I live in is going through a mobility crisis as the economy here has resulted in a bumper crop of cars on streets designed in the early 1900s. There ARE a lot of bikers but usually those involved in public policy are leisure/sport bikers and the large mass of commuters is mostly untapped for their views. I believe in data being used to determine best solutions for creating routes. I'd like to know if anybody can tell me what bike route/path/lane/boulevard has the steepest grade in Madison (what is the grade and street name/numbers so I can streetview it)? They say our streets are too steep for people to consider commuting (and there are some steep places but there are also ways/routes to deal with that). They also say it gets too hot here (avg 68ºF-88ºF). I know..... I'd also like to know if folks have any preferred tools for measuring/mapping gradient. I've been playing with Google's My Tracks app but it won't work on my phone - only my tablet: MyTracks site http://www.google.com/mobile/mytracks/ An example from here (if you click on the end point -lower right- you can see the data) https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid=212638913161739896841.0004ed42fb622ebc15c44&msa=0 -- Matthew (Mateus) Berigan - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Campina Grande, Paraiba Brasil 083-8787-4929 (Brasil cell) 608-237-1596 (U.S. line) [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> _______________________________________________ Bikies mailing list [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> http://lists.danenet.org/listinfo.cgi/bikies-danenet.org _______________________________________________ Bikies mailing list [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> http://lists.danenet.org/listinfo.cgi/bikies-danenet.org _______________________________________________ Bikies mailing list [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> http://lists.danenet.org/listinfo.cgi/bikies-danenet.org -- Matthew (Mateus) Berigan - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Campina Grande, Paraiba Brasil 083-8787-4929 (Brasil cell) 608-237-1596 (U.S. line) [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
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