Mitch, you haven't been around here that long, have you? On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 5:28 PM, Mitchell Nussbaum <[email protected]> wrote:
> I've never had problems with King St., strangely enough, but it is a > classic example of a steep hill in Madison. Back in the days when our > transit system consisted of horsecars, the rail company kept a horse at the > bottom of the hill to add horsepower for the climb. > > > > ------------------------------ > *From: *"India Viola" <[email protected]> > *To: *"Grant Foster" <[email protected]> > *Cc: *[email protected] > *Sent: *Thursday, February 6, 2014 12:29:51 PM > > *Subject: *Re: [Bikies] Can anybody tell me which bike > route/path/lane/boulevard has the steepest grade? > > Other nominees: > > Observatory Drive > King Street from Wilson Street up to the Capitol Square > And the hill leading into Blue Mounds State Park > > Matthew, > > Who are the "they" that you are talking about? Car commuters? > Transportation planners? City officials? > Your dialog may be different with each naysaying group. > > I recommend that you find a biking group in San Francisco and pose a > similar question to them. > You could also reach out to the League of American > Bicyclists<http://www.bikeleague.org/>(LAB). They love data and advocating > for bike commuting in the states (and > beyond, I would bet). > > india > > WeAreAllMechanics.com <http://weareallmechanics.com/> > [email protected] > > Stay connected- Follow WAAM on > Facebook<http://www.facebook.com/We.Are.All.Mechanics> > > > On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 12:16 PM, Grant Foster <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Or 11.5% if you focus on the main hill: >> http://veloroutes.org/hillgradecalculator/?loc1=1200+edgewood+ave+MADISON+WI&loc2=1035+edgewood+ave+MADISON+WI&units=e >> >> >> >> On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 12:06 PM, Abby Davidson <[email protected] >> > wrote: >> >>> Dave, >>> >>> That's a part of my daily route and I recalled that veloroutes has a >>> tool for that: >>> >>> >>> http://veloroutes.org/hillgradecalculator/?loc1=EDGEWOOD+AVE+AND+VILAS+PARK+DR+MADISON+WI&loc2=2153+MONROE+ST+MADISON+WI&units=e >>> >>> It's a lot of work for only a 3.9% grade! >>> >>> Abby >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 11:57 AM, Dave <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >>>> Edgewood Ave. coming out of Vilas Park up to Monroe street.. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* [email protected] [mailto: >>>> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Dorothy Krause >>>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 06, 2014 11:55 AM >>>> *To:* 'Dave Minden'; 'Mark Clear'; [email protected] >>>> >>>> *Subject:* Re: [Bikies] Can anybody tell me which bike >>>> route/path/lane/boulevard has the steepest grade? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> What's the grade coming up Seminole Highway south of the beltline? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Dorothy Krause >>>> >>>> Dane County Board of Supervisors >>>> >>>> Fitchburg Common Council >>>> >>>> [email protected] >>>> >>>> 608-271-7532 >>>> >>>> http://friendsofdorothykrause.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* [email protected] [ >>>> mailto:[email protected]<[email protected]>] >>>> *On Behalf Of *Dave Minden >>>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 06, 2014 11:52 AM >>>> *To:* Mark Clear; [email protected] >>>> *Subject:* Re: [Bikies] Can anybody tell me which bike >>>> route/path/lane/boulevard has the steepest grade? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> If you count the surrounding area (ridden by many cyclists in Madison) >>>> my GPS-bike computer registered highest on Timber Lane just south of Mauer >>>> Road, at 21% grade. This is the highest I've seen, including my riding on >>>> Forest Service roads in the North Cascades, OR! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Dave >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> *From:* Mark Clear <[email protected]> >>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 6, 2014 11:35 AM >>>> *Subject:* Re: [Bikies] Can anybody tell me which bike >>>> route/path/lane/boulevard has the steepest grade? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Don't know whether it's the steepest grade in the city, but Old Sauk >>>> Road between Old Middleton and Ozark Trail is about 12%. And I curse it >>>> every day. >>>> >>>> Mark C. >>>> >>>> On 2/6/2014 11:15 AM Matthew Berigan wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> The city I live in is going through a mobility crisis as the economy >>>> here has resulted in a bumper crop of cars on streets designed in the early >>>> 1900s. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> There ARE a lot of bikers but usually those involved in public policy >>>> are leisure/sport bikers and the large mass of commuters is mostly untapped >>>> for their views. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I believe in data being used to determine best solutions for creating >>>> routes. I'd like to know if *anybody can tell me* what bike >>>> route/path/lane/boulevard has the steepest grade in Madison (what is the >>>> grade and street name/numbers so I can streetview it)? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> They say our streets are too steep for people to consider commuting >>>> (and there are some steep places but there are also ways/routes to deal >>>> with that). They also say it gets too hot here (avg 68ºF-88ºF). I know..... >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I'd also like to know if folks have any preferred tools for >>>> measuring/mapping gradient. I've been playing with Google's My Tracks app >>>> but it won't work on my phone - only my tablet: >>>> >>>> MyTracks site http://www.google.com/mobile/mytracks/ >>>> >>>> An example from here (if you click on the end point -lower right- you >>>> can see the data) >>>> https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid=212638913161739896841.0004ed42fb622ebc15c44&msa=0 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Matthew (Mateus) Berigan >>>> *- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - * >>>> Campina Grande, Paraiba Brasil >>>> 083-8787-4929 (Brasil cell) >>>> 608-237-1596 (U.S. line) >>>> [email protected] >>>> [email protected] >>>> [email protected] >>>> [email protected] >>>> [email protected] >>>> [email protected] >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> Bikies mailing list >>>> >>>> [email protected] >>>> >>>> http://lists.danenet.org/listinfo.cgi/bikies-danenet.org >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Bikies mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://lists.danenet.org/listinfo.cgi/bikies-danenet.org >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Bikies mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://lists.danenet.org/listinfo.cgi/bikies-danenet.org >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Bikies mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://lists.danenet.org/listinfo.cgi/bikies-danenet.org >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Bikies mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.danenet.org/listinfo.cgi/bikies-danenet.org >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Bikies mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.danenet.org/listinfo.cgi/bikies-danenet.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Bikies mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.danenet.org/listinfo.cgi/bikies-danenet.org > > -- "If we continue to consume the world until there's no more to consume, then there's going to come a day, sure as hell, when our children or their children or their children's children are going to look back on us--on you and me--and say to themselves, 'My God, what kind of monsters were these people?'" --Daniel Quinn
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