All of this climbing routes on the bike emailing reminds me of warm weather AND 
that I better lose some weight...this ultra cold winter has apparently been 
matched my ultra calorie ingestion...and age.  Dang.  Ride safe everyone and 
here's to an early spring!
 
Troy Thiel




On Friday, February 7, 2014 11:34 AM, Mitchell Nussbaum <[email protected]> 
wrote:
 
Not me; I think I came to Madison about the same time Tim did. My bike, 
perhaps, but it doesn't like to reminisce.
I think I read that little tidbit in Mollenhoff's history of Madison. Or 
somewhere. 


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From: "tim wong" <[email protected]>
To: "Mitchell Nussbaum" <[email protected]>
Cc: "India Viola" <[email protected]>, "bikies" <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, February 7, 2014 12:42:15 AM
Subject: Re: [Bikies] Can anybody tell me which bike route/path/lane/boulevard 
has the steepest grade?


Mitch, you haven't been around here that long, have you?


On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 5:28 PM, Mitchell Nussbaum <[email protected]> wrote:

 
I've never had problems with King St., strangely enough, but it is a classic 
example of a steep hill in Madison. Back in the days when our transit system 
consisted of horsecars, the rail company kept a horse at the bottom of the hill 
to add horsepower for the climb. 
> 
> 
>
>
>________________________________
> 
>From: "India Viola" <[email protected]>
>To: "Grant Foster" <[email protected]>
>Cc: [email protected]
>Sent: Thursday, February 6, 2014 12:29:51 PM 
>
>Subject: Re: [Bikies] Can anybody tell me which bike route/path/lane/boulevard 
>has the steepest grade?
>
>
>
>Other nominees: 
>
>
>Observatory Drive 
>King Street from Wilson Street up to the Capitol Square
>And the hill leading into Blue Mounds State Park
>
>
>Matthew,
>
>
>Who are the "they" that you are talking about?  Car commuters?  Transportation 
>planners?  City officials?
>Your dialog may be different with each naysaying group.
>
>
>I recommend that you find a biking group in San Francisco and pose a similar 
>question to them.
>You could also reach out to the League of American Bicyclists (LAB).  They 
>love data and advocating for bike commuting in the states (and beyond, I would 
>bet).
>
>
>india
>
>
>WeAreAllMechanics.com
>[email protected]
>
>
>Stay connected- Follow WAAM on Facebook
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>
>
>
>On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 12:16 PM, Grant Foster <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>Or 11.5% if you focus on the main hill: 
>http://veloroutes.org/hillgradecalculator/?loc1=1200+edgewood+ave+MADISON+WI&loc2=1035+edgewood+ave+MADISON+WI&units=e
> 
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 12:06 PM, Abby Davidson <[email protected]> 
>>wrote:
>>
>>Dave, 
>>>
>>>
>>>That's a part of my daily route and I recalled that veloroutes has a tool 
>>>for that:
>>>
>>>http://veloroutes.org/hillgradecalculator/?loc1=EDGEWOOD+AVE+AND+VILAS+PARK+DR+MADISON+WI&loc2=2153+MONROE+ST+MADISON+WI&units=e
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>It's a lot of work for only a 3.9% grade!
>>>
>>>
>>>Abby
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 11:57 AM, Dave <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>Edgewood Ave. coming out of Vilas Park up to Monroe street.. 
>>>> 
>>>>From:[email protected] 
>>>>[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dorothy Krause
>>>>Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2014 11:55 AM
>>>>To: 'Dave Minden'; 'Mark Clear'; [email protected]
>>>>
>>>>Subject: Re: [Bikies] Can anybody tell me which bike 
>>>>route/path/lane/boulevard has the steepest grade?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>>What’s the grade coming up Seminole Highway south of the beltline? 
>>>> 
>>>>Dorothy Krause
>>>>Dane County Board of Supervisors 
>>>>Fitchburg Common Council
>>>>[email protected]
>>>>608-271-7532
>>>>http://friendsofdorothykrause.com 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>From:[email protected] 
>>>>[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dave Minden
>>>>Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2014 11:52 AM
>>>>To: Mark Clear; [email protected]
>>>>Subject: Re: [Bikies] Can anybody tell me which bike 
>>>>route/path/lane/boulevard has the steepest grade?
>>>> 
>>>>If you count the surrounding area (ridden by many cyclists in Madison) my 
>>>>GPS-bike computer registered highest on Timber Lane just south of Mauer 
>>>>Road, at 21% grade. This is the highest I've seen, including my riding on 
>>>>Forest Service roads in the North Cascades, OR!
>>>> 
>>>>Dave
>>>> 
>>>>>
>>>>>________________________________
>>>>> 
>>>>>From:Mark Clear <[email protected]>
>>>>>To: [email protected] 
>>>>>Sent: Thursday, February 6, 2014 11:35 AM
>>>>>Subject: Re: [Bikies] Can anybody tell me which bike 
>>>>>route/path/lane/boulevard has the steepest grade?
>>>>> 
>>>>>Don't know whether it's the steepest grade in the city, but Old Sauk Road 
>>>>>between Old Middleton and Ozark Trail is about 12%. And I curse it every 
>>>>>day.
>>>>>
>>>>>Mark C.
>>>>>On 2/6/2014 11:15 AM Matthew Berigan wrote:
>>>>>Hi! 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>The city I live in is going through a mobility crisis as the economy here 
>>>>>>has resulted in a bumper crop of cars on streets designed in the early 
>>>>>>1900s. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>There ARE a lot of bikers but usually those involved in public policy are 
>>>>>>leisure/sport bikers and the large mass of commuters is mostly untapped 
>>>>>>for their views. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>I believe in data being used to determine best solutions for creating 
>>>>>>routes. I'd like to know ifanybody can tell mewhat bike 
>>>>>>route/path/lane/boulevard has the steepest grade in Madison (what is the 
>>>>>>grade and street name/numbers so I can streetview it)?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>They say our streets are too steep for people to consider commuting (and 
>>>>>>there are some steep places but there are also ways/routes to deal with 
>>>>>>that). They also say it gets too hot here (avg 68ºF-88ºF). I know.....
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>I'd also like to know if folks have any preferred tools for 
>>>>>>measuring/mapping gradient. I've been playing with Google's My Tracks app 
>>>>>>but it won't work on my phone - only my tablet:
>>>>>>MyTracks site http://www.google.com/mobile/mytracks/
>>>>>>An example from here (if you click on the end point -lower right- you can 
>>>>>>see the data) 
>>>>>>https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid=212638913161739896841.0004ed42fb622ebc15c44&msa=0
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>-- 
>>>>>>Matthew (Mateus) Berigan
>>>>>>- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 
>>>>>>Campina Grande, Paraiba Brasil
>>>>>>083-8787-4929 (Brasil cell)
>>>>>>608-237-1596 (U.S. line)
>>>>>>[email protected]
>>>>>>[email protected]
>>>>>>[email protected]
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or their children's children are going to look back on us--on you and me--and 
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