After viewing the video I'll add to my last comment: or maybe the person struck was behaving badly.
On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 1:26 PM, Grant Foster <[email protected]> wrote: > If you think this is about a little beep that occurs only once a half hour > at any given location, you haven't been listening to the experiences that > people are sharing here. There are a lot of places and routes that are now > dominated by the beeping anytime a bus is in the vicinity. Anywhere where > stops are close together the beeping is nearly continuous (right signal on > a half block before the stop, signal stays on while the bus is at the stop > sometimes loading wheelchairs or bikes, left signal comes on to leave the > stop and stays on for a half block while the bus pulls out). > > Here is a link to a sruveilence mix tape Metro published as part of their > "Safe Streets" initiative to show some of the issues experienced. I think > it clearly shows that there is a lot of bad behavior out there from people > on foot and people on bikes. I was surprised to not see much bad behavior > from Metro drivers as it relates to interactions with people on foot and > people on bikes since I've personally witnessed a good number of major > issues in the last few months alone. But most telling, is that I don't > think any reasonable person could assert that the beeping would have helped > in any of the 12 incidents depicted in the video. > > > http://media.cityofmadison.com/Mediasite/Play/0643247b29a24605a8e47fcacb04248f1d > > On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 1:06 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > On Jun 4, Harald wrote: >> > >> >> My two cents: The turn signal sound is noise pollution in an urban >> >> environment, and I don't think there is solid scientific evidence of a >> >> safety benefit (If somebody is aware of good studies, I'd be very >> >> interested). >> >> Michael: >> >> > This, exactly. Whether one finds the sound annoying or not is >> immaterial. >> > If it only adds to the din without a demonstrable safety benefit, then >> why >> > have it? >> >> I look at it the other way. No, I don't know if there are any studies >> offering "solid scientific evidence" of a safety benefit (and hard to >> study it if you don't do it), but I think that's an excessively high >> standard when you consider that the negative impact of using it is darn >> near ZERO. So to rephrase, "If there is a chance that it might have some >> benefit, and has no demonstrable negative effects, why NOT have it?" >> >> There are many worse problems on the street than a little beep that occurs >> only once a half hour (or longer) at any given location. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Bikies mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.danenet.org/listinfo.cgi/bikies-danenet.org >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Bikies mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.danenet.org/listinfo.cgi/bikies-danenet.org > >
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