I asked for input. Asking for input should not be seen as rattling cages. I am aware of at least two people have been nicked/clipped/hit by bikes, please imagine if that was you. I am not proposing changes at this time but seeking feedback and ideas.
Thank you. Marsha ________________________________ From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Carl DuRocher [email protected] [MarqNA] <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, August 3, 2015 7:41 PM To: Dave Watts [email protected] [MarqNA] Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]; Ross, Arthur; Dryer, David; Knepp, Eric Subject: Re: [MarqNA] Bicycling on the sidewalk in Orton Park The diagonal sidewalk is a convenient way to get into and/or through the park for more than just bicyclists. But so what, even if it were? Let's not start rattling cages in Parks and Streets about this. -- Carl DuRocher (608)251-8637 "You're either on the bus, or off the bus." - - Ken Kesey of the Merry Pranksters On Tue, 4 Aug 2015, Dave Watts [email protected] [MarqNA] wrote: > Really? We want to make it more difficult to bike? I've lived in the > neighborhood since 1977. Can't remember any bicycle / pedestrian accidents > in the park. Leave things the way they are. > > From: "'Matthew Logan' [email protected] [MarqNA]" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]; "'Ross, Arthur'" > <[email protected]>; "'Dryer, David'" <[email protected]>; > "'Knepp, Eric'" <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, August 3, 2015 8:34 AM > Subject: RE: [MarqNA] Bicycling on the sidewalk in Orton Park > > Can we remove the diagonal sidewalk in Orton Park so it is not an appealing > cut-through for people riding bicycles? > > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Monday, August 03, 2015 7:03 AM > To: [email protected] > Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]; Ross, Arthur; > Dryer, David; Knepp, Eric > Subject: Re: [MarqNA] Bicycling on the sidewalk in Orton Park I would > think that walking bikes can be allowed. Peter Bradley On Sun, Aug 2, 2015 > at 8:10 PM, 'Rummel, Marsha' [email protected] [MarqNA] > <[email protected]> wrote: I have received recent complaints from > people concerned that bicyclists are speeding through Orton Park. At least > two people have reported to me that they have been clipped by bicyclists > coming behind them. This park has playground equipment and is used regularly > by young families and kids as well as runners and walkers. It is legal to > ride your bikes on the sidewalk in a city park. There is a no bicycle sign in > Orton but it is there to prohibit people from riding on the turf in order to > protect the root zone of the oaks from compaction. Rutledge is a bike > commuter route and some bicyclists use the diagonal park path as a cut > through to Spaight St and avoid the sharp turn at Ingersoll (or Few St). > I've attached the ordinance below. I could amend it and add Orton to the list > that includes Henry Vilas Zoo as a prohibited parks for bicyclists to use if > there is neighborhood support. I'd like to get feedback on people's > experiences in the park in regard to concerns about excessive speed of > bicyclists and imact on safety of other park users. Marsha Here is the > ordinance. 8.31 BICYCLES IN PARKS.(1) Purpose and Intent. The Common > Council finds that as the use of City parks increases, it is in the public > interest to protect and preserve parkland resources while making these > resources accessible to the multiplicity of City park users. The Common > Council specifically authorizes the Park Commission to identify trails within > parkland suitable for bicycle use. The use of bicycles ontrails not > designated for that specific use denigrates the parkland by accelerating > erosion and endangers hikers because of inadequate sight clearance. It is the > intent of this ordinance to reconcile the desires of individual park users > with the need to preserve the resources for all citizens and to that end to > designate certain parks and park areas for use consistent with > safety,preservation of natural resources and recreational enjoyment.(2) > Definitions.“Bicycle” has the meaning specified in Wis. Stat. § > 340.01(5).“City park” means City-owned property designated and operated as a > park for general recreational use but does not include greenways or > conservation parks.“Conservation park” has the meaning specified in Sec. > 8.40(2), MGO.“Natural area” means any area not mowed on a regular basis to > turf 6” or less in height.“Roadway” means highway as defined in Wis. Stat. § > 340.01(22).“Trail” means any maintained travel route through a natural area, > the surface of which may bedirt, mowed turf, gravel, wood chips or > boardwalk.(3) Bicycles Allowed. Any person may ride a bicycle:(a) in a City > park on paved roadways, parking areas, paved paths and mowed turf areaswhich > are not trails.(b) anywhere in Quarry Park.(c) on two designated trails in > Edna Taylor Park, providing access to Femrite Drive andGlendale School, > respectively.(d) on one designated trail through Owen Park, running from > Inner Drive to Bordner Drive.(e) other specific areas designated and posted > according to an order issued by the ParkCommission.(4) Prohibitions.(a) It > shall be unlawful for any person to ride a bicycle on any trail or natural > area in any Citypark except trails or areas designated and posted as open to > bicycles, according to anorder issued by the Park Commission.(b) It shall be > unlawful for any person to ride or operate any bicycle within areas of > theHenry Vilas Zoo unless specific permission has been granted by the Henry > Vilas ZooDirector. (Am. by ORD-11-00168, 12-6-11)Sec. 8.31(4)(c) PUBLIC > PROPERTYRev. 12/15/11 8 - 18(c) It shall be unlawful for any person to ride a > bicycle on a mowed turf area in City parkswhen such area has been designated > and posted as closed to bicycles, according to anorder issued by the Park > Commission.(5) Penalty. 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