On Fri, Nov 09, 2018 at 03:57:53PM -0600, Bruce Dubbs via blfs-dev wrote:
> On 11/09/2018 02:57 PM, Ken Moffat via blfs-dev wrote:
> > 
> > I refuse to touch nvidia drivers, and after my experience with
> > nouveau on a GT710 (worked fine if Xorg not used, e.g. for a server,
> > disastrous for crashing if Xorg in use) and from reading reports
> > about the problems of using current nvidia cards with nouveau, I
> > will not again use nvidia cards on a desktop machine.
> 
> My experience is quite different.  I have been using
> 
> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA GT218 [GeForce 210]
> 
> for several years on my development system using the nouveau driver with
> absolutely no problems.

Because I had preferred integrated graphics, I only looked at what
was currently-available when I needed to specify a machine, and
after previous problems I wanted to get a pre-assembled machine.
The GT710 was low power, and cheap - it was only later that I found
the open nouveau bugs (and added some more).  But currently-available
nvidia, at least for new systems, seems to mean 1060 or later which
apparently bring a lot of problems (need firmware, maybe cannot
sleep).

>  On the other hand, I tried a Radeon RX460 in the
> same system and could not get it to work satisfactorily without an initrd to
> load firmware.  That creates for me extra work for every new kernel.

Having determined what firmware is needed for ATI cards, I currently
build it into the kernel.  Yes, that takes a little time for the
first few build/boot/reconfigure cycles, but after that it merely
wastes about 72K of kernel memory (based on the sizes of the files
in /lib/firmware for the Caicos card (R5/230) now on this box.

Unfortunately, current separate amdgpu cards can use a lot more
power, and they also don't support vga monitors - I need to make a
lot of hardware changes before I can try them.

> 
> Not so recently I also experimented with the proprietary Nvidia driver, but
> I don't like it because of it's requirement to rebuild the kernel with every
> update.

Yes indeed, and since I try to test -rc kernels it is expected that
either the nvidia driver would no-longer build because of kernel
changes, or else that any bug report would tend to be "not our
problem unless you can replicate without the binary driver".

> 
> P.S.  My workstation has Intel HD Graphics 530 on my i5-6500 and that runs
> quite nicely.

Yes, I don't understand the fascination with "improved" graphics
cards, except for gamers and fgor bragging rights.  I much prefer
lower power consumption in graphics.

ĸen
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