Hi Damien,
At least with swamp, you don't need to be precise. Moving the mouse left or 
right turns your character, and pressing a button fires or walks. There's no 
impact if you move the mouse up or down.
I will note though that this is coming from a trackpad user. Everyone else 
seems to hate trackpads. I never got the hang of a mouse, and just go back 
to playing on my laptop.


From: "Damien Garwood" <dam...@dcpendleton.plus.com>
Sent: Monday, February 12, 2018 7:22
To: <blind-gamers@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] audio game walkthroughs

No. Thankfully I don't have Parkinsons. But my motor skills aren't all that
great. Neither is my spatial awareness and coordination. I battled with
iPhones and iPads for the better part of 5 years and had to give up in the
end. Typing at averages of 60 WPM on a desktop keyboard, 40 WPM on laptops,
10 WPM on the old Nokia phones with qwerty keyboards (at least they had
standard buttons), 5 WPM with standard number-based texting on the really
old phones, I'm lucky if I can do a single word in five minutes with an
iDevice. The touchscreen is just too sensitive, my other fingers get in the
way far too easily. You have to be really careful about how many fingers you
have on the screen, how they're positioned...Ugh. Even my grandma can use it
better than me, and that's saying something.
As for a mouse. I'm guessing I'll have similar problems with that. Not to
mention I'm not sure how it's supposed to move with two buttons, unless
those are like arrow keys? I guess at least if you have a proper mouse they
are actually buttons and not just some stupid touch based area. And how do
you know how far it's moving? How do you know you're not activating the
wrong thing? This is all, totally brand spanking new to me. To think I can
install hard drives in laptops and yet as far as mouse operation is
concerned you may as well be speaking to an alien. Lol.
-----Original Message----- 
From: Jude DaShiell
Sent: Monday, February 12, 2018 12:07 PM
To: blind-gamers@groups.io
Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] audio game walkthroughs

Actually that's incorrect for one reason.  The mouse moves easily.
Unless you have parkinsons disease you can probably use a touch screen
since you'll be able to keep a finger still long enough to do a gesture.
  I can't use mice either and have a major fine motor deficit yet I can
and do use a touch screen every day.  I think what you could have used
to play those games with is a track ball.  That has a ball in a case you
turn to move the cursor and then there are two separate buttons on the
case you press to click.  You also keep your hand in the same position
to use a track ball since only the ball in the track ball turns and the
buttons are its only moving parts.  If you try any of this stuff, I'll
be interested to know what results you have.  There's also a rat.  A rat
is on the floor and attached to the computer and you operate a rat with
your feet.  Never having used one of those, I can't go into specifics on
that device though.  I have two problems with mice.  First those move
way too fast and second the targets for them (controls) are too small.
If a screen could have no more than 9 controls in three columns of three
rows I expect then I could have used a mouse effectively.

On Mon, 12 Feb 2018, Damien Garwood wrote:

> Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2018 19:06:29
> From: Damien Garwood <dam...@dcpendleton.plus.com>
> Reply-To: blind-gamers@groups.io
> To: blind-gamers@groups.io
> Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] audio game walkthroughs
> Hi,
> Being totally blind from birth, I've never touched a mouse, and I hope I
> would never need to. Mice (mouses? mice? that just sounds weird!) were
> unusable by the blind at the time when I was taught computers, hence the
> reason I could never really play Swamp or RailRacer, let alone think about
> complete system navigation with it. Not only that but my coordination and
> spatial awareness isn't all that great. If I can't use a touchscreen then
> I've no chance of using a mouse.
> Cheers.
> Damien.
> -----Original Message----- From: Jude DaShiell
> Sent: Monday, February 12, 2018 12:00 AM
> To: blind-gamers@groups.io
> Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] audio game walkthroughs
> Windows users just think mac operating system is hard until they start
> playing with the mouse then they learn different quickly.  Now, mac on
> the command line interface, that's a different operating system and
> needs study.
> On Sun, 11 Feb 2018, Damien Garwood wrote:
>>  Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2018 17:49:44
>>  From: Damien Garwood <dam...@dcpendleton.plus.com>
>>  Reply-To: blind-gamers@groups.io
>>  To: blind-gamers@groups.io
>>  Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] audio game walkthroughs
>>  Katie,
>>  That may well be your opinion. I know a lot of people who are Mac
>> lovers,
>>  and they are certainly well advertised. But for those who are brought up
>>  and taught around Windows, learning a whole new operating system is like
>>  learning how to live on another planet. You may as well lose your legs,
>>  get wooden ones and learn how to walk all over again. I had to sell my
>> Mac
>>  because I couldn't figure for the life of me how to use it.
>>  Cheers.
>>  Damien.
>>  -----Original Message----- From: Katie Epperson via Groups.Io
>>  Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2018 10:43 PM
>>  To: blind-gamers@groups.io
>>  Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] audio game walkthroughs
>>  That, my friend, is why you should get a Mac. They don?t eat your stuff
>>  most of the time
>>>  On Feb 11, 2018, at 2:33 PM, lori duncan <lori.dunca...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>  Hi I was wondering if someone could send me the link to the website
>>> which
>>>  had all the audio game recordings, including the ones from
>>> Asmodean.net?
>>>  I
>>>   had it until my system got wiped by a stupid microsoft update, and now
>>> I
>>>   can't remember the webb address.
>>>   Thanks from Lori.



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