Hi All, Maybe I’m wrong but it seems like there may be a misunderstanding here.
It seems like people are thinking we are somehow going to be accepting some sort of payment for unsupported Windows titles, and this is absolutely not the case. Our titles will no longer be available on the Windows platform at all. So we are obviously not going to be charging Windows users for anything. Our titles will only be available on Apple platforms going forward and thus we will only be selling games through the various Apple App Stores. Incidentally, this is one reason I’ve not understood people asking for us to essentially begin giving away our Windows titles for free while (going forward) folks on Apple platforms will need to purchase said titles. This situation would not be fair either. So perhaps someone here can clarify the issue you are having with this change we are making? Just to be absolutely clear, going forward, the only titles we will be offering and making available will be for Apple. All of our Windows titles will no longer be available. nor will we be accepting any kind of payment for any Windows titles. I hope this makes sense, and I’m sorry if there has been any kind of confusion around this. Thanks and please have a great day! Cheers! Cara > On May 20, 2023, at 12:19 PM, Darren Duff <[email protected]> wrote: > > got ya. when put that way I do understand. > > Darren Duff. Colossians 3:17 And whatever you do or say, do it as a > representative of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks through him to God the > Father. web site http://darrenduff.net Check out my youtube page here. > https://youtube.com/@darren_duff amateur radio station KK4AHX. Mastodon: > [email protected] friend me on face book > http://www.facebook.com/DarrenLDuff. > On 5/20/2023 1:53 PM, Liam Erven wrote: >> Darren. I think the main issue here is that these games are receiving >> updates on one platform but not another, so if they games are not going to >> get updates, people don't understand why they're being asked to pay for >> software that is no longer being maintained. Not everyone owns and iPhone or >> Mac. that's just how it is. So windows users feel punished in a way, which I >> can totally understand. >> >> >> >> >> On 5/20/2023 12:11 PM, Darren Duff wrote: >>> I do not understand your question. my point was we've had over 20 plus >>> years to enjoy these games under windows. and all of a sudden everyone >>> wants stuff for free just because a company is changing the way it does >>> things, trying to make it better for all of us that play games. So my other >>> question would be to the folks that want the games for free under windows, >>> why didn't any of you go out and buy the games when they were sitting there >>> for the taking? not trying to be hostile, I'm just wondering. >>> >>> Darren Duff. Colossians 3:17 And whatever you do or say, do it as a >>> representative of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks through him to God the >>> Father. web site http://darrenduff.net Check out my youtube page here. >>> https://youtube.com/@darren_duff amateur radio station KK4AHX. Mastodon: >>> [email protected] friend me on face book >>> http://www.facebook.com/DarrenLDuff. >>> On 5/20/2023 12:31 PM, Danielle Ledet wrote: >>>> But then what if people use this availability as an opportunity not to >>>> buy the game? I am looking forward to the games on the iPhone. >>>> Perhaps, I'll start gaming again. >>>> >>>> On 5/20/23, Darren Duff <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> that my friend is very short sited. >>>>> >>>>> Darren Duff. Colossians 3:17 And whatever you do or say, do it as a >>>>> representative of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks through him to God the >>>>> Father. web site http://darrenduff.net Check out my youtube page here. >>>>> https://youtube.com/@darren_duff amateur radio station KK4AHX. Mastodon: >>>>> [email protected] friend me on face book >>>>> http://www.facebook.com/DarrenLDuff. >>>>> On 5/19/2023 3:29 PM, [email protected] wrote: >>>>>> This company has screwed us Windows users far as I am concerned. >>>>>> >>>>>> Haylie >>>>>> >>>>>> *From:* [email protected] <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of >>>>>> *Darren Duff >>>>>> *Sent:* Friday, May 19, 2023 3:14 PM >>>>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [blind-gamers] A Dragon Reborn >>>>>> >>>>>> This is what change looks like people! we have all had the chance to >>>>>> play these games on windows for years. now, The times are changing! I >>>>>> for one have no problem at all buying these games on iOS again. It's >>>>>> worth it, and helps out a great company that we know is legit, and >>>>>> will provide entertainment for us all. I for one welcome it! >>>>>> >>>>>> Darren Duff. Colossians 3:17 And whatever you do or say, do it as a >>>>>> representative of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks through him to God the >>>>>> Father. web site http://darrenduff.net Check out my youtube page here. >>>>>> https://youtube.com/@darren_duff amateur radio station KK4AHX. >>>>>> Mastodon: [email protected] friend me on face book >>>>>> http://www.facebook.com/DarrenLDuff. >>>>>> >>>>>> On 5/19/2023 12:41 PM, Tobias Vinteus wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I guess it stems from the fact that the titles will get further >>>>>> development, but not on the widely used platform that they were >>>>>> developed on in the first Place, making customers feeling cheated >>>>>> out of taking part in future versiones of the Products without not >>>>>> only having to pay for them again, but also having to afford the >>>>>> new platform. >>>>>> >>>>>> Skickades från E-post >>>>>> <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> för Windows >>>>>> >>>>>> *Från: *Michael Maslo <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>>> *Skickat: *den 18 maj 2023 13:57 >>>>>> *Till: *[email protected] >>>>>> *Ämne: *Re: [blind-gamers] A Dragon Reborn >>>>>> >>>>>> I don’t understand the big deal myself. >>>>>> >>>>>> Not one individual before this announcement came out said anything >>>>>> about this company and the fact that titles have not been updated >>>>>> or such until this came out. Now everybody is up in arms about it. >>>>>> Why? >>>>>> >>>>>> In my opinion, if a company chooses to take another route then so >>>>>> be it. If you’re unable to purchase these titles now, you had all >>>>>> the way up to the date of the announcement either get a >>>>>> replacement key and or to try these titles out. If they were not >>>>>> available, what are you losing? >>>>>> >>>>>> Now, mind you, this is my opinion only. I personally don’t care, >>>>>> for. I have not played these titles in many many years and have >>>>>> absolutely no interest in playing them ever again. >>>>>> >>>>>> Sincerely, >>>>>> >>>>>> Michael maslo >>>>>> >>>>>> > On May 17, 2023, at 11:16 PM, QuentinC <[email protected]> >>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> > Hello, >>>>>> >>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> > IF you don't want to upgrade your old windows titles any longer, >>>>>> making them freewares is a good thing to do. This will let people >>>>>> who are under windows for whatever reason to continue enjoying >>>>>> your games. >>>>>> >>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> > If I'm under windows today, what should I do if I want to play >>>>>> your game ? If you have stopped selling it to new customers, I'm >>>>>> stuck. The day I'm switching to mac or iOS, I may remember that >>>>>> your games were unavailable, impossible to grab or try out, be >>>>>> limited to demo mode, when I was under windows, and won't search >>>>>> further. I can think that you aren't very reliable. Potentially >>>>>> you have lost a customer. >>>>>> >>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> > By making your old windows titles freewares, on your side, you >>>>>> no longer need to care about past customers who lost their keys. >>>>>> You are making time free to invest on what you want today, develop >>>>>> for mac and iOS. I'm pretty sure that, after a while, you will >>>>>> just be annoyed about all those guys who lost their old windows >>>>>> key, and will start taking ages to reply and eventually no longer >>>>>> reply at all. >>>>>> >>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> > I have lost my key. You don't reply within a reasponable time. >>>>>> Certainly I won't ever try to buy your mac or iOS games since you >>>>>> dont appear very reliable. Again you have lost a customer forever. >>>>>> >>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> > So if I wrap things up, be clear with your customers: you keep >>>>>> supporting your windows titles as you have done until now, and so >>>>>> you can of course keep making money out of them. If you chose to >>>>>> stop supporting them, you should no longer make money out of them. >>>>>> There is no free sugar ! Being in an half-closed unclear state is >>>>>> going to be annoying both for you and your customers in the long >>>>>> run. Several other audio game companies did it, and slowly, >>>>>> finally died. >>>>>> >>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> > You can of course decide to close everything under windows right >>>>>> now without releasing freewares and it's a perfectly valid >>>>>> thinking, but you are just losing an opportunity to reach more >>>>>> people wo may buy your iOS version tomorrow, and you are >>>>>> frustrating your current customers who stay under windows for the >>>>>> moment and with whom you will lose a little of good reputation. >>>>>> It's up to you. >>>>>> >>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> > Thank you for reading. >>>>>> >>>>>> > With all the best. >>>>>> >>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> > Le 17.05.2023 19:32, Tobias Vinteus a écrit : >>>>>> >>>>>> >> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >>>>>> >> If your goal is to reach the widest possible audience, then it >>>>>> would >>>>>> >>>>>> >> seem to me that staying on Windows would be the better choice. >>>>>> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >>>>>> >> Technologies like haptic feedbakc and spatial audio are >>>>>> available on >>>>>> >>>>>> >> Windows, after all. >>>>>> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >>>>>> >> There is one more thing to consider. I have an iPod 6th >>>>>> generation. Many >>>>>> >>>>>> >> apps cannot be updated due to the last supported OS version for >>>>>> that >>>>>> >>>>>> >> device being iOS 12. This means that your games might >>>>>> potentially stop >>>>>> >>>>>> >> working or at least wouldn’t be able to update on older iOS >>>>>> devices. >>>>>> >>>>>> >> Being able to afford newer devices might not be as easy for us >>>>>> in the >>>>>> >>>>>> >> blind Community compared to people in general. On a sidenote >>>>>> this rarely >>>>>> >>>>>> >> happens on my Android device despite its oS being several >>>>>> iterations behind. >>>>>> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >>>>>> >> Being no exper, I don’t know the ammount of effort it would >>>>>> take to port >>>>>> >>>>>> >> a modern Windows game to Xbox, but I would imagine it to be >>>>>> >>>>>> >> comparatively Little, furthermore strengthening the argument to >>>>>> stay on >>>>>> >>>>>> >> Windows. >>>>>> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >>>>>> >> If you haven’t already don eso, I would recommend you perform >>>>>> some kind >>>>>> >>>>>> >> of market survey to gauge which platform would be the most >>>>>> profitable >>>>>> >>>>>> >> one to develop for. >>>>>> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >>>>>> >> Just my two cents. I wish you good luck and am looking forward >>>>>> to what >>>>>> >>>>>> >> comes out of Draconis in the future. >>>>>> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >>>>>> >> Cheers, >>>>>> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >>>>>> >> Tobias >>>>>> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >>>>>> >> Skickades från E-post >>>>>> <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> >>>>>> <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> >>>>>> >>>>>> >> för Windows >>>>>> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >>>>>> >> *Från: *Cara Quinn <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>>> >>>>>> >> *Skickat: *den 15 maj 2023 18:51 >>>>>> >>>>>> >> *Till: *[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>>> >>>>>> >> *Kopia: *Cara Quinn <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>>> >>>>>> >> *Ämne: *[blind-gamers] A Dragon Reborn >>>>>> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >>>>>> >> It's been a long while, but it's finally time to announce the >>>>>> start of a >>>>>> >>>>>> >> new chapter for Draconis Entertainment, LLC. The dragon is >>>>>> awakening yet >>>>>> >>>>>> >> again! >>>>>> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >>>>>> >> This new incarnation of the company brings big and exciting >>>>>> changes. We >>>>>> >>>>>> >> will explain those and some of our plans for the future here, >>>>>> but know >>>>>> >>>>>> >> that we aren't spilling all the beans quite yet. What fun would >>>>>> that be! >>>>>> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >>>>>> >> The world has moved on! >>>>>> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >>>>>> >> Our first announcement is that we are bringing new and enhanced >>>>>> versions >>>>>> >>>>>> >> of our classic games, along with brand-new titles, into the >>>>>> modern age >>>>>> >>>>>> >> and on to Apple platforms, with an emphasis on iPhone! Thanks to >>>>>> >>>>>> >> VoiceOver, the overwhelming majority of the visually impaired >>>>>> community >>>>>> >>>>>> >> has access to at least one of Apple's operating systems, and >>>>>> this will >>>>>> >>>>>> >> make our games available to the widest possible audience. It's >>>>>> hard to >>>>>> >>>>>> >> believe sometimes, but that little rectangle of glass we all >>>>>> carry in >>>>>> >>>>>> >> our pockets has infinitely more power than any of the PCs or >>>>>> Macs that >>>>>> >>>>>> >> our legacy titles were developed on, and with the tight >>>>>> integration of >>>>>> >>>>>> >> Apple's operating systems, we will be able to easily make new >>>>>> releases >>>>>> >>>>>> >> available for iPhone, iPad, Mac, or AppleTV going forward. This >>>>>> approach >>>>>> >>>>>> >> means that we can integrate newer technologies like full 3D >>>>>> spatial >>>>>> >>>>>> >> audio, touch and accelerometer interaction, and support for >>>>>> console game >>>>>> >>>>>> >> controllers and advanced haptics. >>>>>> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >>>>>> >> What does this mean for our Windows products? >>>>>> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >>>>>> >> We know how beloved these games have been over the years—we >>>>>> love them >>>>>> >>>>>> >> too—and we want to bring all of them, with expansions and new >>>>>> features, >>>>>> >>>>>> >> into the twenty-first century, so they can be enjoyed by new >>>>>> and old >>>>>> >>>>>> >> generations of gamers alike. The support cost for the original >>>>>> Windows >>>>>> >>>>>> >> games, some of which were new when Nintendo 64 was the hot >>>>>> ticket and >>>>>> >>>>>> >> Xbox didn't yet exist, is simply too high to manage for a small >>>>>> company >>>>>> >>>>>> >> like us, while also investing in the future. >>>>>> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >>>>>> >> We will be bringing our Windows development to a close and >>>>>> giving these >>>>>> >>>>>> >> games new life on iPhone, iPad, Mac, and AppleTV. That said, >>>>>> for the >>>>>> >>>>>> >> time being, we will continue to offer downloads of the >>>>>> installation >>>>>> >>>>>> >> packages for our legacy catalog on our site, and customers who >>>>>> purchased >>>>>> >>>>>> >> them may request replacement keys within reason. (For more >>>>>> details, see >>>>>> >>>>>> >> the Legacy section of our new website at https://draconis.llc.) >>>>>> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >>>>>> >> Back in March, the legacy Draconis Score Server (DSS) and >>>>>> Draconis >>>>>> >>>>>> >> Online License Factory (DOLF) for the Windows versions of >>>>>> ChangeReaction >>>>>> >>>>>> >> 2 and SilverDollar, migrated to a new host and received some >>>>>> >>>>>> >> modernization. As you've already seen, this brought much needed >>>>>> >>>>>> >> stability to both of those services. >>>>>> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >>>>>> >> So what’s up first? >>>>>> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >>>>>> >> With all of that in mind, we're pleased to introduce major >>>>>> updates to >>>>>> >>>>>> >> the Mac versions of ChangeReaction and SilverDollar. Freed from >>>>>> the >>>>>> >>>>>> >> cross-platform constraints of developing for both macOS and >>>>>> Windows, we >>>>>> >>>>>> >> have been able to add some new features to these titles. The most >>>>>> >>>>>> >> exciting of which is full-support for any of the console game >>>>>> >>>>>> >> controllers supported by Apple platforms. These include the >>>>>> PlayStation >>>>>> >>>>>> >> DualShock 4 or DualSense 5, the Xbox X / S controllers, the >>>>>> Nintendo >>>>>> >>>>>> >> Switch JoyCons, any MFI controller, and others. SilverDollar now >>>>>> >>>>>> >> includes a great deal of new and remastered audio, support for >>>>>> Apple >>>>>> >>>>>> >> Silicon, and countless bug fixes and tweaks. >>>>>> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >>>>>> >> These upgraded titles will be available as free updates to >>>>>> anyone who >>>>>> >>>>>> >> purchased them previously from the Mac App Store. SilverDollar >>>>>> 2.0 is >>>>>> >>>>>> >> out now and is available for free. ChangeReaction 3.0 will have >>>>>> its >>>>>> >>>>>> >> price reduced to $4.99 in the US when it is reintroduced in the >>>>>> coming >>>>>> >>>>>> >> weeks. (Prices will vary based on exchange rates.) >>>>>> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >>>>>> >> Looking forward, the development to bring a mix of new and >>>>>> familiar >>>>>> >>>>>> >> titles to life is well-underway, and we can’t wait to show you >>>>>> what >>>>>> >>>>>> >> we’ve been working on! The future is bright. >>>>>> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >>>>>> >> We know the dragon has been sleeping for a very long time. We >>>>>> appreciate >>>>>> >>>>>> >> your patience and support more than we can say. Thank you for >>>>>> the last >>>>>> >>>>>> >> twenty years. We hope you'll join us as the dragon is reborn. >>>>>> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >>>>>> >> Cheers! >>>>>> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >>>>>> >> Cara >>>>>> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> > > > > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. 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