The BMW UUC Digest Volume 1 : Issue 36 : "text" Format Messages in this Issue: <E30> failed emissions Re: <E30> failed emissions Re: <E30> failed emissions Re: Final Snow Tire Decision - advice Re: ABS wiring and RaceLogic Traction Control installation anyone want rice? Re: Bent E36 M3 Re: Crooked E36 M3 - What to do?
---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 15:01:52 +0000 From: "Gilbert Hoffman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: <E30> failed emissions Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gruppe: I know there are some of these issues in the archives, but none seemed to address my problem. The car: 1987 325e, 201575miles, ~15K since last valve adjustment, ~7500 since conversion to "i" exhaust with new cat, 3.63 diff, plugs are about 15K old It passed fine last inspection. (~2 years ago) The story: Just brought my car to be inspeced this morning. It had been sitting in the driveway with a broken windshield since November 3. (I started it only once during that time.) The car failed emissions big time. NOx : Allowable: 1227 My car: 2853 HC: Allowable: 162 My car: 208 (These are the numbers NJ gives, they don't state if they are in ppm etc.) Car passed all other emissions. My thoughts: Car had been sitting which cannot be good for emissions testing. (Month old fuel etc.) Car has 3.63 diff so when test on dyno is done I am running a ~25% higher rpm than I would with OE 2.93 diff. I have noticed the smell of the car running rich upon startup, but that usually goes away after car is warmed up. I did drive the car around a bit to warm the cat up before the test, but I did end up sitting with the car in idle on line this morning for about 10 minutes. Later today I will be swapping the 3.63 for a 3.25, so that will adjust the rpms at cruise, but I doubt that is the only issue. Any suggestions would be great. BTW, Does anyone know what ETW is? I presume Estimated Test Weight. (Listed as 3375 for my 2-door eta with the AC and PS ripped out. Gilbert _________________________________________________________________ >From the hottest toys to tips on keeping fit this winter, you�ll find a range of helpful holiday info here. http://special.msn.com/network/happyholidays.armx ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 11:30:38 -0500 From: "Rob Levinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: <E30> failed emissions Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The diff would have nothing to do with it - the test is ppm, a volume-based test at a specific rpm. Wheel speed is not a factor in the test, only rpm. As all of your major readings are high, I would suspect the cats are tired or the O2 sensor is bad, possibly a cold-start temp sensor. - Rob >---- Original Message ---- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: RE: [UUC] <E30> failed emissions >> >>The car failed emissions big time. >>NOx : >>Allowable: 1227 My car: 2853 >> >>HC: >>Allowable: 162 My car: 208 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 14:27:53 -0500 From: "Rob Levinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: <E30> failed emissions Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ---- Original Message ---- >Rob wrote: > >>The diff would have nothing to do with it - the test is ppm, a >>volume-based test at a specific rpm. Wheel speed is not a factor in >>the test, only rpm. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >I was under the presumption that they did the test in second gear at >25mph. That may indeed be true, but the sniffer still tests ppm. At 25mp in 2nd gear, turning X.000rpm, your 2.5l is putting out less volume than a Chevy 454 V8 pickup truck... yet the test components are the same, parts per million. The speed/gear test is designed to simulate normal driving. >Cat is only a year old, as well as the O2 sensor. Probably no more >than 10K >miles on either. I like the cold start temp sensor idea though. Most likely culprit is the thermo-time switch which runs the car rich until it senses coolant temp has increased a specific amount. When this fails, the car runs rich all the time. Old BMW trick for donkey-simple forced induction enrichment, or to compensate for something else: a controlled switch for the sensor to add more fuel when needed. - Rob ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 07:44:47 -0800 (PST) From: Neil Deshpande <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Final Snow Tire Decision - advice Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Bill: Have you ever tried Gisvaled? I had the Nord Frosts on my 88 iS in Detroit and they were really great. I used to do about 600 miles/week in winter with most of them on the weekend and then about 10 miles/day in largely poorly ploughed areas. The tires bolted the back of the car down like you wouldn't believe. Same thing around Ohio State and the poorly plouged apt. complexes. The car ran through mini-drifts and such w/o issues while invincible FWD cars (LOL!) were stuck. In fact, I used the diving board rear bumpers to push other cars out of snow with those tires. GREAT wear as well. I had them 4 years and they were as good as when I got them from the PO who may have had them a while as well. While practising German on a plane in Europe, I came across an review that rated them over the Nokian offerings in Finland or something. At any rate, my German was not good enough to get all the comments, but I _could_ read the tabulated results! <grin> Neil Deshpande - no snows in ATL! *** Bill Ballon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> But I am VERY biased, because these are the reasons that we have sold Nokian tires for the last eight years. IF a better tire line comes out, We'll sell them instead of the Nokians! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 09:53:38 -0800 From: "Scott & Charlotte Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "UUC Digest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: ABS wiring and RaceLogic Traction Control installation Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Frank, the Bentley manuals I've seen include wiring schematics for some of the more common models, but there can be differences. I think the factory ETM for your specific model would be a better source for your needs. Scott Miller GGC BMW CCA >Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 08:26:23 -0700 >From: "Frank & Kirsten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: ABS wiring and RaceLogic Traction Control installation >Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >I'm installing a Race Logic Traction Control system in my 1995 M3 and am >having a difficult time with the electrical schematic in the Bentley >Manual versus the wire colors I'm seeing on the ABS harness near the ABS >brain behind the glove box. Does anyone know what color layout is of the >harness wires for the signals from the wheel sensors? The electrical >schematic from the manual has colors that don't exist on my harness. >Also, I was wondering if anyone out there has done this install on the >same year M3. If so, can you give any advice or insights you have gained >from your experience. > >Thanks, Frank >1995 M3 BUILD DATE = 4/95 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 14:28:18 -0500 From: "Robinson, Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'UUCDigest'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "'M3SIG'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: anyone want rice? Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=6131&item= 2445627206 Found floating in da' bay. Timmy, I think you could use a yella E30 M3 to match your 330is. Happy thanksgiving belated..... Lee ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 08:22:13 -0500 From: "The Corbs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Don Stevenson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "bmw digest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Bent E36 M3 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Don: The wierd thing is that it drove fine until the rear Pilots wore out, ie for the first 3/4k miles. I drove it, another friend who really knows and races these cars and even one of the owners of AA said he couldn't believe that it ran straight and stable. One of the local BMW dealers had also offered to take the car as a trade, which also gave a false sense of security. As for my "friend", if I didn't believe that he was also taken, options 2 and 3 would apply. John Corbs ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Stevenson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 10:48 AM Subject: Bent E36 M3 > Here are a few other option's > > 1:) Next time drive the car before you buy it. If it behaved badly at over > 50 you would have noticed. > > 2:) Get "the friend" who sold it to you to refund all your money. > > 3:) If option #2 does not work, slap "friend" upside his head about 3 or 4 > times. At this point he may reconsider option #2. > > Don Stevenson > BMWCCA Boston Chapter > 1988 325IS #49KP > 1987 325IS Street > > > > > **************************************************************************** > > This message is intended for the addressee only and may contain privileged > or confidential information. Unless you are the intended recipient, you may > not use, copy or disclose to anyone any information contained in this > message. If you have received this message in error, please notify the > author by replying to this message and then kindly delete the message. Thank > you. > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 08:35:38 -0500 From: "The Corbs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Dorffer, Rich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Crooked E36 M3 - What to do? Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Thanks for the admonishments and the sanity folks. Rest assured that I would not consider destroying a good E30M3. However Rich and Peter are correct that there are a lot of dogs out there that are only a step away from the scrapheap, and if one comes my way I will be tempted. That said, the transplant into an E36 is still preferable and appears to be more straightforward, and I haven't seen any indications that would preclude any E36 unibody? If any of you hear or know of a good e36 roller, please let me know. Thanks John Corbs ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dorffer, Rich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 9:34 AM Subject: Crooked E36 M3 - What to do? You guys and your silly sacrilege to the E30 M3. There is no big deal putting the E36 M3...errr....332is motor into the E30 M3. You guys act like they are so rare as to be ultra valuable. Last I checked, pristine E30 M3s were still below $20k and a rolling chassis was well below $10k, I wouldn't exactly call either ultra collectible. Don't get me wrong, I am not endorsing taking a pristine example and doing a transplant (I wouldn't for a pristine 325is either), but there are plenty of candidates out there. I would find the best E30 chassis you can find (garden variety or M3) and do a transplant. Regards, Rich - still would like an E30 M3 some day... ------------------------------ End of [bmwuucdigest] digest(8 messages) **********
