The BMW UUC Digest Volume 2 : Issue 776 : "text" Format Messages in this Issue: Re: Tranny science Re: Tranny science Re: Tranny science Re: Tranny science Re: Tranny science Re: Tranny science Opps! Re: Tranny science Re: Tranny science CE Light still on!!!! WOB . Need help finding MB parts
---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 08:43:55 -0400 From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Carlos Lopez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Tranny science Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> SS hoses barely make a difference in high pressure low volume brake system. I'd expect the effect on a high volume low pressure clutch system to be an order of magnitude less. Gary Derian > --- Gary Derian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Enough control to damage the transmission if he wants. > > Yes but your E30/E34/my 95 M3 did not have one. And shifting is > noticeably different with the CDV. I haven't blown up any > transmissions so I suspect it'll survive. :-) > >> What is the purpose of the SS clutch hose? > > Supposedly improved clutch control, removes mushy pedal feel, better > slave cylinder actuation, yada, yada. Probably BS but I have one so I > may try it, heck it may not even fit as mine is a Goodrigde line. I'll > keep the other parts in case I need to put all that crap back. > > Carlos. > 98 M3 > E30 325is > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 09:29:41 -0400 From: "Rob Levinson * UUC Motorwerks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Cc: "Carlos Lopez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Tranny science Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> We've been producing SS clutch lines for quite awhile already. While "the numbers" may not add up to such expectations, the real-world experiences and feedback of users has been overwhelmingly positive. One of the more noticeable effects is the consistency of engagement point regardless of temperature. As a "fixed point test", users have reported the consistency based on how much further until they hit the Clutch Stop device. Whereas with the rubber line, they may have discovered that extreme-heat situations resulted in incomplete clutch disengagement before hitting the CS, they no longer have the problem. It's not a "day and night" difference, yet worthwhile at the very least from a maintenance perspecive of replacing all rubber lines periodically... and certainly less expensive than the OE part, always a nice bonus! Pics of the UUC Stainless Steel Clutch line: http://www.uucmotorwerks.com/ss_clutch_lines/ - Rob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [UUC] Tranny science > SS hoses barely make a difference in high pressure low volume brake system. > I'd expect the effect on a high volume low pressure clutch system to be an > order of magnitude less. > Gary Derian ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 20:39:46 -0400 From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Rob Levinson * UUC Motorwerks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[email protected]> Cc: "Carlos Lopez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Tranny science Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Uh oh. Carlos, you should have told me it was a UUC part <grin>. Gary Derian > We've been producing SS clutch lines for quite awhile already. While "the > numbers" may not add up to such expectations, the real-world experiences > and > feedback of users has been overwhelmingly positive. > > One of the more noticeable effects is the consistency of engagement point > regardless of temperature. As a "fixed point test", users have reported > the > consistency based on how much further until they hit the Clutch Stop > device. > Whereas with the rubber line, they may have discovered that extreme-heat > situations resulted in incomplete clutch disengagement before hitting the > CS, they no longer have the problem. > > It's not a "day and night" difference, yet worthwhile at the very least > from > a maintenance perspecive of replacing all rubber lines periodically... and > certainly less expensive than the OE part, always a nice bonus! > > Pics of the UUC Stainless Steel Clutch line: > > http://www.uucmotorwerks.com/ss_clutch_lines/ > > - Rob > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [UUC] Tranny science > > >> SS hoses barely make a difference in high pressure low volume brake > system. >> I'd expect the effect on a high volume low pressure clutch system to be >> an >> order of magnitude less. >> Gary Derian > > Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 19:34:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Carlos Lopez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Tranny science Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- Gary Derian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Uh oh. Carlos, you should have told me it was a UUC part <grin>. > Gary Derian And spoil the fun? Nahhhh.... :-) Carlos. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 08:32:42 -0500 From: Clarence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Gary Derian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Carlos Lopez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [email protected] Subject: Re: Tranny science Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gary, by this do you mean our sometimes overdone daily drivers and part-time track cars? I didn't notice a big (or any?) difference when I installed the SS brake lines several years ago, but the rubber hoses were in poor shape and I simply went the SS route. I've avoided installing 'hi-performance' ignition wires and a few other things touted as being better simply b/c the OEM stuff does all it's supposed to. Clarence West Bend, WI Gary Derian wrote: > SS hoses barely make a difference in high pressure low volume brake > system. <snip> ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 08:59:00 -0400 From: "Tom Melton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Tranny science Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Ahhh, but consider the bling factor if the car is ever shiny side down! -Tom >>> "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 8/15/2005 8:43:55 AM >>> SS hoses barely make a difference in high pressure low volume brake system. I'd expect the effect on a high volume low pressure clutch system to be an order of magnitude less. Gary Derian ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 08:35:50 -0700 From: "Gordo, Ping" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Opps! Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sorry about that. Too fast on the send button there. Pingger ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 11:35:02 -0500 From: Neil Maller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Tranny science Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 8/15/05 7:20 AM, Carlos Lopez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- Gary Derian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> What is the purpose of the SS clutch hose? > > Supposedly improved clutch control, removes mushy pedal feel, better > slave cylinder actuation, yada, yada. Probably BS but I have one so I > may try it, heck it may not even fit as mine is a Goodrigde line. I'll > keep the other parts in case I need to put all that crap back. Since the clutch hydraulics, unlike the brake system, operate at low pressures, I'm having difficulty seeing how the SS hose is going to make any difference in feel. (Uh-oh, now Rob L's going to spank me, and not in a fun way...) On the other hand replacing an aged stock rubber hose with a new and more robust part while you're in there anyway doesn't seem like a bad idea, so for the $29 it costs I probably will too when I do my clutch/flywheel. Neil Fort Wayne, IN 96 M3 - Bastard child 03 525iT - Sterling Grey Metallic 77 MGB - Original owner, need to sell 05 Mini - Cooper S with LSD! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 13:26:33 -0400 From: "Bruno" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Tranny science Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Since the clutch hydraulics, unlike the brake system, operate at low > pressures, I'm having difficulty seeing how the SS hose is going to make any > difference in feel. Low pressure or not, I remember seeing the line expending when I was depressing the clutch. The car was 13 years old and a new line is much more expensive than the UUC one. Bruno Webmaster of the BMW E34 Website: www.bmwe34.net ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 09:58:43 -0700 From: "Gordo, Ping" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: CE Light still on!!!! Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Let me try this again. My '98 323is radiator expansion tank gave up after 164K miles(I replaced the radiator last year) and the new one is now in and working perfectly but I can't seem to get the CE light or the OBC to reset? I can't see anything on the Bentley about it either. What am I missing? TIA Pingger ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 12:10:29 -0500 From: "BMWBits" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "2002digest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "E21 Digest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "E9coupes BMW" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Senior Six Digest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Sixer coupe Group" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Uucdigest" <[email protected]> Subject: WOB . Need help finding MB parts Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Apologies for being off-BMW topic, but there is a link (DTM 1980's ) . I just today acquired a somewhat rare Mercedes Benz and need help finding any wrecks (you junk-yard dogs know who you are !!) to try and get used parts for it ....HELP !! It's a 1987 190 2.3 16 valve -looks somewhat like the BMW E30M3 having been built to compete in the same DTM races . Obviously there are large parts of the car that are just regular MB 190 , just as lots of the M3 are normal E30 , BUT there are differences , mainly in body trim (spoiler, sideskirts , rear wing etc ) as well as the motor -twin-cam 4cyl 4-valve with head designed/made by Cosworth .CLOSE RATIO Getrag 5-speed too (for you M3nies !!) So o oooo your assignment is ....Keep your eyes/ears open for nubby-looking MBs in wrecking yards and send me off-digest emails of location/contacts etc . Keys to identification include trunklid emblems -or shadows -reading 190 2.3-16 , rear wing on trunklid , front spoiler wrapped around the normal bumper and that glorious looking motor ... What I need most is a chunk of black-painted plastic body-trim in front of drivers door ...unique to that car ! There was a real beauty sold on Ebay over weekend if you want to see what they look like .. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/AWESOME-1987-MERCEDES-190E-16-VALVE-LOW-M ILES-RECORDS_W0QQitemZ4566672891QQcategoryZ6328QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Will appreciate ALL leads , and I promise NOT to tell your wife you've been in those wrecking yards again !! Bill Proud , 36 yrs messing with BMWs ..but I had an MB 300sl roadster in late 60s !! Heh! ------------------------------ End of [bmwuucdigest] digest(11 messages) **********
