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  <E30> Hacking it apart
  Re: <E30> Hacking it apart
  <E30> strut brace
  Re: <E30> strut brace
  Re: <E30> strut brace
  Re: <E30> strut brace
  Re: <E30> strut brace
  Re: Garage Battery Charger Question
  Re: Garage Battery Charger Question

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Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 11:54:02 -0800
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [email protected]
Subject: <E30> Hacking it apart
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


Well whoever suggested the Milwaukee Torch blades .... thanks. The E30 was
sawn up this weekend to make way for another E30 that we plan to make a
track car. We stripped out the motor and other useful parts and sent the
carcas to Japan/China/Korea take your pick.
We went through 5 blades. The E30 is one strong little car.
Anyone need help on this in the future , let me know.

-Kevin



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Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 15:51:58 -0500
From: "Fuerst, Chris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: <E30> Hacking it apart
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

We use Bahco blades here. Quite happy with them and a LOT less than
Milwaukee, Dewalt, etc. 

Not sure if these links will work or not.

http://extranet.bahco.com/CONndc.asp?Save_UID=1&wp=&GotoCat=true&cmbLang
uage=1


http://extranet.bahco.com/Catalogue/CONCat.asp?lchapterID=1&lsectionID=4


Thanks,
1st


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Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 16:15:15 -0600
From: Clarence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: UUC Digest <[email protected]>
Subject: <E30> strut brace
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

My '87 325 has H&R springs, Bilstein Sports and the M3 control arm 
bushings but no other modifications.  A garage that had aligned it told 
me what amount of negative camber there was (don't remember the number) 
and he suggested it was probably right for my purposes;  he knew I 
tracked the car.

I've now come into possession of a strut brace.  My question is 'if I 
install the brace, and it would appear the tops of the struts may have 
to be pushed out a little, will I then loose any negative camber?'  If 
so, and for track purposes, am I better to not install the brace?

I do not have any problems with adverse tire wear at this time, other 
than the outsides, front and back, get eaten IMO too much at the track.

TIA

Clarence
West Bend, WI

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Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 16:29:43 -0600
From: "Paul Garnier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'Clarence'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
        "'UUC Digest'" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: <E30> strut brace
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Modify the brace to fit the car,,,not the other way around

Paul Garnier
FastNetworking.com
281-827-0725

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Clarence
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 4:15 PM
To: UUC Digest
Subject: [UUC] <E30> strut brace

My '87 325 has H&R springs, Bilstein Sports and the M3 control arm 
bushings but no other modifications.  A garage that had aligned it told 
me what amount of negative camber there was (don't remember the number) 
and he suggested it was probably right for my purposes;  he knew I 
tracked the car.

I've now come into possession of a strut brace.  My question is 'if I 
install the brace, and it would appear the tops of the struts may have 
to be pushed out a little, will I then loose any negative camber?'  If 
so, and for track purposes, am I better to not install the brace?

I do not have any problems with adverse tire wear at this time, other 
than the outsides, front and back, get eaten IMO too much at the track.

TIA

Clarence
West Bend, WI
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Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 17:52:36 -0500
From: Kevin Henry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Cc: Clarence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: <E30> strut brace
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

According to Ireland Engineering, there may be 2 different chassis dimensions 
between the strut towers.  Most cars are 1002 mm between the towers, and thus 
most braces are made to that spec.  Some cars appear to only be 980mm between 
the towers.

If you hold the brace on top of the towers, and it looks close to fitting 
(within a couple mm too wide), jack the front end up and install it with the 
pressure off the suspension.  The chassis often has some flex to it from long 
term use, but the brace should fit without forcing it.

It won't hurt your camber settings--it will actually make them more consistent 
side to side, especially if you are running R-compound tires and there is some 
chassis flex already present.

Kevin

---- Clarence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> My '87 325 has H&R springs, Bilstein Sports and the M3 control arm 
> bushings but no other modifications.  A garage that had aligned it told 
> me what amount of negative camber there was (don't remember the number) 
> and he suggested it was probably right for my purposes;  he knew I 
> tracked the car.
> 
> I've now come into possession of a strut brace.  My question is 'if I 
> install the brace, and it would appear the tops of the struts may have 
> to be pushed out a little, will I then loose any negative camber?'  If 
> so, and for track purposes, am I better to not install the brace?
> 
> I do not have any problems with adverse tire wear at this time, other 
> than the outsides, front and back, get eaten IMO too much at the track.
> 


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Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 08:45:15 -0500
From: "Fuerst, Chris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: <E30> strut brace
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

FYI, according to my frame spec sheets:

For 85-89 cars it's 930mm (36-5/8") CC on the front inner bolts.
On the 89 iC it's only 920 (36-1/4")

On the ix it's 1162 (45-3/4") to the outside
but it shows the orientation is different (2 bolts parallel on the
outside)
Not familiar with the quirks on the ix.

I was always told the towers sag in so on many cars you need to jack
them and let them sag back to install the brace as someone stated.

The sheets give some more details to other points. I have not been
ambitious enough
to throw it on the CAD but I will someday. Thought it would be good info
for an X brace.


1st


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Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 20:48:57 -0500
From: "marshall lytle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[email protected]>
Cc: "'Clarence'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: <E30> strut brace
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

 and if jacking it up with the suspension hanging still leaves you a few mm
short.  A good ole farm jack between the strut towers works wonders. They
fit perfectly over the engine.  Stretch it a few mm too far and leave it
with the jack on overnight.  Take jack off and put strut bar on immediately.
Btdt.  I don't think that sparco strut bar on my old e30 race car will ever
come off....;-)

marshall

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Henry
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 5:53 PM
To: [email protected]
Cc: Clarence
Subject: Re: [UUC] <E30> strut brace

According to Ireland Engineering, there may be 2 different chassis
dimensions between the strut towers.  Most cars are 1002 mm between the
towers, and thus most braces are made to that spec.  Some cars appear to
only be 980mm between the towers.

If you hold the brace on top of the towers, and it looks close to fitting
(within a couple mm too wide), jack the front end up and install it with the
pressure off the suspension.  The chassis often has some flex to it from
long term use, but the brace should fit without forcing it.

It won't hurt your camber settings--it will actually make them more
consistent side to side, especially if you are running R-compound tires and
there is some chassis flex already present.

Kevin


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Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 15:34:26 -0800
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Garage Battery Charger Question
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


Ed,
I've got an old Sears charger with the analog meters which has been very
reliable over the years. In your choices both handle different types of
batteries. Desulphation is a key feature. If you ever have a problem I
would imagine you could take a trip down to the local Sears and get it
taken care of.
Don't know if this would apply to Schumacher....being in Austria/Schweiz
and all.


-Kevin



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Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 10:15:43 -0600
From: "Roberts, Clarence H CIV USA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Garage Battery Charger Question
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Is "desulphation" a real feature or a marketing manager's dream?

Don't all battery chargers desulphate through the very process of
charging a battery?  I.e., a charged battery's lead plates increase in
size as the active material absorbs sulphate from the acid electrolyte
during discharge then decrease in size as they give up the sulphate
during charging.

So what is the battery charger manufacturer claiming that isn't already
happening with every battery charger?

When a charge can no longer restore the sulphate to the electrolyte your
battery is worn out.

Side issues: without the sulphate the electrolyte becomes water.  Then
the battery can freeze (BTDT).  Overcharging the electrolyte can
generate hydrogen gas and a spark can cause an explosion (BTDT, too).

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 5:34 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [UUC] Garage Battery Charger Question


Ed,
I've got an old Sears charger with the analog meters which has been very
reliable over the years. In your choices both handle different types of
batteries. Desulphation is a key feature. If you ever have a problem I
would imagine you could take a trip down to the local Sears and get it
taken care of.
Don't know if this would apply to Schumacher....being in Austria/Schweiz
and all.


-Kevin



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