The BMW UUC Digest Volume 3 : Issue 428 : "text" Format Messages in this Issue: Re: 20 year old spare tire Re: 20 year old spare tire Re: 20 year old spare tire Re: 20 year old spare tire Re: 20 year old spare tire Re: 20 year old spare tire 20 year old spare tire <OT> K40 Radar/Laser detector <E36> M52 valve cover gasket... again... grrrr
---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 12:45:50 -0400 From: Dana Earl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: 20 year old spare tire Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Don't know about 20 years, but after having a recent failure of a tire I ran the original spare for about 4 weeks. The spare, a Pirelli P600 worked perfectly and gave me no problems. Build date on the car is 11/93, so tire is approximately 13 1/2 years old. I did make a point of checking proper inflation, but wasn't particularly concerned that it would fail. Doubt if I ever had the car over 80 mph during the time it was on. Did I take my life in my own hands? Dana Earl 94 530i ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 12:53:58 -0400 From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Dana Earl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[email protected]> Subject: Re: 20 year old spare tire Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Higher speed tires have nylon cap plies which old a tire together better. The problem with old tires is the oxygen from the inflation air degrades the bonding between layers. A non-inflated tire does much better since there is no inflation pressure to force the oxygen through it. More Explorer owners are dying these days when they install a 10+ year old spare on their vehicle that had the original tires, but not the spare, recalled. Gary Derian > Don't know about 20 years, but after having a recent failure of a tire I > ran the original spare for about 4 weeks. The spare, a Pirelli P600 > worked perfectly and gave me no problems. Build date on the car is 11/93, > so tire is approximately 13 1/2 years old. I did make a point of checking > proper inflation, but wasn't particularly concerned that it would fail. > Doubt if I ever had the car over 80 mph during the time it was on. Did I > take my life in my own hands? > > Dana Earl > 94 530i > Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 10:11:26 -0700 From: Kazuto Okayasu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: 20 year old spare tire Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> At 09:53 AM 3/16/2007, Gary Derian wrote: My personal old-spare near-miss was because of tread separation, despite keeping it under 45 (no freeway). I've had a couple of friends who have had full tread separation on spares as new as 10 years old. Someone with expertise should chime in here, but a tire sitting in the bowels of a trunk (which may collect water, etc.), not be inflated properly, and not be occasionally loaded up and exercised (no 5-tire rotation; do they even put that method in owners manuals anymore?) probably doesn't hold up as well as a tire that's being used. >Higher speed tires have nylon cap plies which old a tire together >better. The problem with old tires is the oxygen from the inflation >air degrades the bonding between layers. A non-inflated tire does >much better since there is no inflation pressure to force the oxygen >through it. > >More Explorer owners are dying these days when they install a 10+ >year old spare on their vehicle that had the original tires, but not >the spare, recalled. Kazuto Okayasu Manager, Desktop Support Services Administrative Computing Services, University of California, Irvine [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 13:32:48 -0500 From: "Rob Levinson * UUC Motorwerks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: 20 year old spare tire Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> That's pure Darwinism, genetic punishment for not thinking about the obvious. - Rob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > More Explorer owners are dying these days when they install a 10+ year old > spare on their vehicle that had the original tires, but not the spare, > recalled. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 14:34:55 -0400 From: "Ben Keyes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: 20 year old spare tire Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> if the original spare wasn't replaced with the new non-recalled tires then the dealer/tire store who replaced the recalled tires messed up since all 5 were included in the recall & would have been covered w/o question when the others were replaced. the spare was always the same size & spec as the road tires on all the Explorers I was exposed to at the plant. that won't stop people from suing someone about it tho of course. it's also possible that a recall replaced tire is now old enough to have rotted out or whatever - what's the effective life of a spare stored under the back of an Explorer ? Ben summer tire in spare well on E34 Gary wrote: > > More Explorer owners are dying these days when they install a 10+ year old > spare on their vehicle that had the original tires, but not the spare, > recalled. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 14:49:35 -0400 From: "Fuerst, Chris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: 20 year old spare tire Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Same as the effective lifespan of an E30 radiator? 1st -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ben Keyes it's also possible that a recall replaced tire is now old enough to have rotted out or whatever - what's the effective life of a spare stored under the back of an Explorer ? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 12:56:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Jake Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: 20 year old spare tire Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Good question on spare age. Just recently, for my own peace of mind, I replaced the Michelin Sport that came in the trunk of my 1995 M3 (10/94 production)with a decently treaded Goodyear that saw 20K usage on the car over the last 2 years. The Michelin had only been on the ground once for ~25 miles, but it's a 12 year old tire. Tires 'deteroriate'... Jake ____________________________________________________________________________________ Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate in the Yahoo! Answers Food & Drink Q&A. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545367 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 10:22:50 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [email protected] Subject: <OT> K40 Radar/Laser detector Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For anyone running a K40. My K40 was giving me these tweets (2) every 5 seconds. It turns out that's a failure code for the rear detector. I unhooked and cleaned the connector pins and now all is well. -Kevin ---------------------------------------------------------------- This e-mail communication is confidential and is intended only for the individual(s) or entity named above and others who have been specifically authorized to receive it. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy, use or disclose the contents of this communication to others. Please notify the sender that you have received this e-mail in error by replying to the e-mail. Please then delete the e-mail and any copies of it. Thank you. ---------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 11:33:14 -0500 (CDT) From: "Kevin Jay (Mr.Fabulous)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: <E36> M52 valve cover gasket... again... grrrr Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Did the plugs on the E36 this AM (just because it seemed time). Found oil down the #3 hole (not a lot). Geee wiz... I did the valve cover gasket on this car maybe 50K ago, and it's failed again? What's the deal? Grrrrr..... Side note: I use NGK BKR6EQUP plugs, and at maybe 60K+ they probably could've gone that much again. Wow, do these babys last. - Kevin Jay '96 328is, red/tan, 99K, usual H&R/Bilstein setup, a few M3 parts too '02 X5 3.0, white/tan, 50K, bone stock, currently at mercy of my stealer ------------------------------ End of [bmwuucdigest] digest(9 messages) **********
