The BMW UUC Digest Volume 3 : Issue 578 : "text" Format Messages in this Issue: Sight unseen Re: Sight unseen Re: Sight unseen Re: Sight unseen Re: Sight unseen Re: Sight unseen Re: Sight unseen Cooling system cleanout? Re: Cooling system cleanout? BMW AUTO TRANS FAILURES . Re: BMW AUTO TRANS FAILURES . Re: 1996 E36 Sedan with electronic climate control
---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2007 02:31:07 +0000 (UTC) From: "Christopher Anrig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Sight unseen Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gruppe- I am thinking about buying a car sight unseen. I can't personally go to make the purchase. It's in NH. Do you have any suggestions on how to best manage the payment, title transfer, and transportation, etc? I'm in NJ over 5 hrs away, so I imagine having it towed will be exorbitant. Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks, Chris ____________________________________ Please note that this e-mail and any files transmitted with it may be privileged, confidential, and protected from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any reading, dissemination, distribution, copying, or other use of this communication or any of its attachments is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by replying to this message and deleting this message, any attachments, and all copies and backups from your computer. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 22:20:31 -0500 From: "Paul Garnier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Sight unseen Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Bad idea. Been there, done that. Either make the time or have the car evaluated by a trusted shop. A comprehensive evaluation will cost at least $150. Paul Garnier FastNetworking.com 281.827.0725 -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christopher Anrig Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 9:31 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [UUC] Sight unseen Gruppe- I am thinking about buying a car sight unseen. I can't personally go to make the purchase. It's in NH. Do you have any suggestions on how to best manage the payment, title transfer, and transportation, etc? I'm in NJ over 5 hrs away, so I imagine having it towed will be exorbitant. Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks, Chris ____________________________________ Please note that this e-mail and any files transmitted with it may be privileged, confidential, and protected from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any reading, dissemination, distribution, copying, or other use of this communication or any of its attachments is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by replying to this message and deleting this message, any attachments, and all copies and backups from your computer. Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] __________________________________________________________________________ In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2007 08:42:29 -0400 From: "Matt Bader" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Paul Garnier'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[email protected]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Sight unseen Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I agree, don't do it. I think for the investment, it's worth driving up there, or paying someone to inspect the car. We have had more than one story on this list of people getting burned, and getting a car that was not what they bargained for. Normal payment would be a cashier's check. You bring the check, the seller signs the title over to you, you hand him/her the check. Beyond that, there is risk/trust issues to deal with. You could try something whereby you give the seller a deposit, take delivery of the car without title (both sides assuming some risk here), and then meet separately to execute the title transfer and final payment. Matt Bader 1998 M3/4 New BMWCCA Member -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Garnier Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 11:21 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [email protected] Subject: Re: [UUC] Sight unseen Bad idea. Been there, done that. Either make the time or have the car evaluated by a trusted shop. A comprehensive evaluation will cost at least $150. Paul Garnier FastNetworking.com 281.827.0725 -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christopher Anrig Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 9:31 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [UUC] Sight unseen Gruppe- I am thinking about buying a car sight unseen. I can't personally go to make the purchase. It's in NH. Do you have any suggestions on how to best manage the payment, title transfer, and transportation, etc? I'm in NJ over 5 hrs away, so I imagine having it towed will be exorbitant. Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks, Chris ____________________________________ Please note that this e-mail and any files transmitted with it may be privileged, confidential, and protected from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any reading, dissemination, distribution, copying, or other use of this communication or any of its attachments is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by replying to this message and deleting this message, any attachments, and all copies and backups from your computer. Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] __________________________________________________________________________ In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] __________________________________________________________________________ In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2007 12:56:27 +0000 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Digest" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Sight unseen Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Depends on the car and the owner. If the car is new enough, the owner should have service records that they can fax to you. I bought an M3 sight unseen, but I saw a detailed set of photos and got the results of an inspection II from a dealer, plus the car had a little warranty left. You can hedge by getting pics and asking the right questions, then realize that you might still get up there and need to walk away if you see a dealbreaker. Generally, if its and E36, you probably know the problem areas to look into. Also talk to the owner. I bought from a 40 something father who was a cvorporate lawyer. Very different than a 20 something who's modified the car, etc. The peace of mind from a prepurchase is worth a ton, though. Marc plante E36 m3/4, bought in tampa E36 325 bought in CT in 1995 (early internet deal) 02 allroad bought in NY, sold to someone from Seattle Vienna, VA Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device -----Original Message----- From: "Matt Bader" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2007 08:42:29 To:"'Paul Garnier'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[email protected]> Cc:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [UUC] Sight unseen I agree, don't do it. I think for the investment, it's worth driving up there, or paying someone to inspect the car. We have had more than one story on this list of people getting burned, and getting a car that was not what they bargained for. Normal payment would be a cashier's check. You bring the check, the seller signs the title over to you, you hand him/her the check. Beyond that, there is risk/trust issues to deal with. You could try something whereby you give the seller a deposit, take delivery of the car without title (both sides assuming some risk here), and then meet separately to execute the title transfer and final payment. Matt Bader 1998 M3/4 New BMWCCA Member -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Garnier Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 11:21 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [email protected] Subject: Re: [UUC] Sight unseen Bad idea. Been there, done that. Either make the time or have the car evaluated by a trusted shop. A comprehensive evaluation will cost at least $150. Paul Garnier FastNetworking.com 281.827.0725 -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christopher Anrig Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 9:31 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [UUC] Sight unseen Gruppe- I am thinking about buying a car sight unseen. I can't personally go to make the purchase. It's in NH. Do you have any suggestions on how to best manage the payment, title transfer, and transportation, etc? I'm in NJ over 5 hrs away, so I imagine having it towed will be exorbitant. Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks, Chris ____________________________________ Please note that this e-mail and any files transmitted with it may be privileged, confidential, and protected from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any reading, dissemination, distribution, copying, or other use of this communication or any of its attachments is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by replying to this message and deleting this message, any attachments, and all copies and backups from your computer. Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] __________________________________________________________________________ In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] __________________________________________________________________________ In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] __________________________________________________________________________ In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2007 09:06:53 -0400 From: "Matt Bader" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "'Digest'" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Sight unseen Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Yes, much of my decision to purchase my M3, other than the car being in great shape, was based on what information I could glean about the integrity of the owner, how likely was it that he'd be someone who took care of the car, etc. Of course, this was possible by meeting him face to face on a couple of occasions, finding out about his job, his interest in cars, etc. That counted for a lot in my book. Matt Bader 1998 M3/4 New BMWCCA Member -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2007 8:56 AM To: Digest Subject: Re: [UUC] Sight unseen Depends on the car and the owner. If the car is new enough, the owner should have service records that they can fax to you. I bought an M3 sight unseen, but I saw a detailed set of photos and got the results of an inspection II from a dealer, plus the car had a little warranty left. You can hedge by getting pics and asking the right questions, then realize that you might still get up there and need to walk away if you see a dealbreaker. Generally, if its and E36, you probably know the problem areas to look into. Also talk to the owner. I bought from a 40 something father who was a cvorporate lawyer. Very different than a 20 something who's modified the car, etc. The peace of mind from a prepurchase is worth a ton, though. Marc plante E36 m3/4, bought in tampa E36 325 bought in CT in 1995 (early internet deal) 02 allroad bought in NY, sold to someone from Seattle Vienna, VA Sent from my BlackBerryR wireless device -----Original Message----- From: "Matt Bader" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2007 08:42:29 To:"'Paul Garnier'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[email protected]> Cc:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [UUC] Sight unseen I agree, don't do it. I think for the investment, it's worth driving up there, or paying someone to inspect the car. We have had more than one story on this list of people getting burned, and getting a car that was not what they bargained for. Normal payment would be a cashier's check. You bring the check, the seller signs the title over to you, you hand him/her the check. Beyond that, there is risk/trust issues to deal with. You could try something whereby you give the seller a deposit, take delivery of the car without title (both sides assuming some risk here), and then meet separately to execute the title transfer and final payment. Matt Bader 1998 M3/4 New BMWCCA Member -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Garnier Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 11:21 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [email protected] Subject: Re: [UUC] Sight unseen Bad idea. Been there, done that. Either make the time or have the car evaluated by a trusted shop. A comprehensive evaluation will cost at least $150. Paul Garnier FastNetworking.com 281.827.0725 -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christopher Anrig Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 9:31 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [UUC] Sight unseen Gruppe- I am thinking about buying a car sight unseen. I can't personally go to make the purchase. It's in NH. Do you have any suggestions on how to best manage the payment, title transfer, and transportation, etc? I'm in NJ over 5 hrs away, so I imagine having it towed will be exorbitant. Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks, Chris ____________________________________ Please note that this e-mail and any files transmitted with it may be privileged, confidential, and protected from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any reading, dissemination, distribution, copying, or other use of this communication or any of its attachments is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by replying to this message and deleting this message, any attachments, and all copies and backups from your computer. Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] __________________________________________________________________________ In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] __________________________________________________________________________ In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] __________________________________________________________________________ In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] __________________________________________________________________________ In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2007 16:05:23 -0400 From: "Chet Dawes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "'Digest'" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Sight unseen Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> " Depends on the car and the owner " Can't stress this part enough. I couldn't bring myself to do it when I bought my 318ti. Lots of aftermarket modifications, etc and I had probably 30 different e-mails and phone calls with the owner. He was an enthusiast and had references, etc. But in the end I flew out (with a round trip ticket) to see the car to be sure and drove it home. As it were, I could have definitely purchased it without seeing it in person, just wasn't comfortable enough with it. I couldn't find anything wrong with the car that was not fully disclosed by the owner prior to my visit and paid asking price for the car and still got a good deal. It was in that good of condition. I sold the same car sight unseen though. But again, I traded tons of e-mails with pictures to the new prospective owner, and we talked many times on the phone before I received a FedEx'd certified check and put the car on a transporter. He was anything but disappointed. If you can get enough info about the owner and the car, then get a pre-purchase inspection by the shop of your choice you can manage it. But for the extra $400 flight......it's worth seeing the car in person I think. I bought my M3 sight unseen too, but it was wrecked and I knew the owner.....and I bought it as a parts donor. Ended up being pleasantly surprised at the condition and rebuilt the car instead of parting it out. Hence the sale of the 318ti. Buyer beware, but it can be done and work out just fine. Cheers, Chet -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2007 8:56 AM To: Digest Subject: Re: [UUC] Sight unseen Depends on the car and the owner. If the car is new enough, the owner should have service records that they can fax to you. I bought an M3 sight unseen, but I saw a detailed set of photos and got the results of an inspection II from a dealer, plus the car had a little warranty left. You can hedge by getting pics and asking the right questions, then realize that you might still get up there and need to walk away if you see a dealbreaker. Generally, if its and E36, you probably know the problem areas to look into. Also talk to the owner. I bought from a 40 something father who was a cvorporate lawyer. Very different than a 20 something who's modified the car, etc. The peace of mind from a prepurchase is worth a ton, though. Marc plante ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2007 14:44:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Carlos Lopez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Digest'" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Sight unseen Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- Chet Dawes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > " Depends on the car and the owner " > >Can't stress this part enough. I couldn't bring myself to do it when >I bought my 318ti. Lots of aftermarket modifications, etc and I had >probably 30 different e-mails and phone calls with the owner. He >was an enthusiast and had references, etc. My current two cars I bought sight unseen. The E30 didn't require lots of pictures, just the ones pointing out the problems and I purchased from a BlueGrass Bimmers list member. I was quite happy when I drove away from the airport to head home. My M3 took a few more pics, a couple of calls and a whole lot of trust from the seller as I needed the title before I could get the loan. :-) Again purchased from a lister (UUC Garage) and I was very pleasantly surprised as to how fast this car was. Again another good experience. I didn't require a PPI but I always suggest one for other people. Both times the plane tickets were cheap and the trips home were uneventful. Carlos Motor City Chapter 98 M3 bought in NJ 89 325i bought in KY ____________________________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mobileweb/onesearch?refer=1ONXIC ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 23:58:50 -0700 From: Peter Loron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Cooling system cleanout? Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I'm about to embark on replacing the head gasket (again) on my 98 M3. I have a bit of oil in the coolant. What's the scoop on cleaning the system out? Everything in there is new, so I'd rather not replace it all again. Thanks. -Pete ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2007 06:05:31 -0500 (CDT) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Cooling system cleanout? Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I've used Simple Green concentrate right out of the jug. I didn't have any instructions / process only heard that the Porsche 928 guys used the stuff to clean oil from the cooling systems. Here's what I did. Poured 1 gallon of Simple Green into the cooling system, then finished filling with water. Ran the engine to bring it up to temperature, radiator cap on. Drained the cooling system. Pulled the block plug and disconnected the lower radiator hose. Flushed the block/engine with water. Closed up the cooling system and filled with glycol/water mix. Rich > I'm about to embark on replacing the head gasket (again) on my 98 M3. > I have a bit of oil in the coolant. What's the scoop on cleaning the > system out? Everything in there is new, so I'd rather not replace it > all again. > > Thanks. > > -Pete > Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2007 08:29:22 -0500 From: "Bill Proud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Uucdigest" <[email protected]> Subject: BMW AUTO TRANS FAILURES . Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> If you know anyone who owns a 1999/2000 323i or 328i that has suffered total reverse-gear failure in the automatic gearbox , or if you own one or are thinking of buying one (I was !!) you NEED to read this website's comments .....dozens of them . NOT from your typical BMW digest 'car-nut' types , but from your average citizen BMW driver . To say it is sobering is to belittle the problem . Looks like BMW again have failed to stand behind their products. Talk about poor customer service !! http://www.consumeraffairs.com/automotive/bmw_trans.html Feel free to post this on other BMW digests etc .....the wider the word gets spread the better . I am only posting to the UUC , so take it from here .. Note , if you read down these comments there are mentions of pre-existing law suits folks need to know about when dealing with Montvale ..or their own lawyer . Bill Proud .a manual trans guy !! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2007 10:00:39 -0500 From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: BMW AUTO TRANS FAILURES . Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Ambulance chasing. Jon ______________________________________________ Jon Siccardi - DM #053 TreehouseRacing.com M50conversion.com 615.333.9118 ______________________________________________ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Proud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Uucdigest" <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2007 8:29 AM Subject: [UUC] BMW AUTO TRANS FAILURES . > > If you know anyone who owns a 1999/2000 323i or 328i that has suffered > total reverse-gear failure in the automatic gearbox , or if you own one or > are thinking of buying one (I was !!) you NEED to read this website's > comments .....dozens of them . NOT from your typical BMW digest 'car-nut' > types , but from your average citizen BMW driver . > To say it is sobering is to belittle the problem . > Looks like BMW again have failed to stand behind their products. Talk > about poor customer service !! > > http://www.consumeraffairs.com/automotive/bmw_trans.html > > Feel free to post this on other BMW digests etc .....the wider the word > gets spread the better . I am only posting to the UUC , so take it from > here .. > Note , if you read down these comments there are mentions of pre-existing > law suits folks need to know about when dealing with Montvale ..or their > own lawyer . > > Bill Proud .a manual trans guy !! > Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2007 17:55:37 -0400 From: Ed MacVaugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], KMS- Brett Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: 1996 E36 Sedan with electronic climate control Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Problem has resurfaced and I have a week to go before I start the drive to O'fest. Now, fan comes on about one out of five times the car is started, and occasionally will come on after the car has been driven for a few miles. I am thinking of fan motor itself, but can't see where I can send battery voltage down a wire to see if fan will run on high. Fan is in stock at the local dealer, but at a very high price, and I don't want to swap out the fan if it isn't dead yet. Shouldn't that wire be one of the ones from the final stage unit? Ed KMS- Brett Anderson wrote: > Probably the final stage unit. > > Brett Anderson > KMS > > > Ed MacVaugh wrote: >> Fan slowed down on Monday, quit entirely yesterday. >> >> Display was repaired using internet method three years ago, display is >> bright and appears to operate normally. ------------------------------ End of [bmwuucdigest] digest(12 messages) **********
