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Re: FW: E46 Steering Wheel Clicking Problem ...
Re: FW: E46 Steering Wheel Clicking Problem ...
Electronic Keys
Re: Electronic Keys
Re: Electronic Keys
Re: Electronic Keys
Re: Electronic Keys
Re: Electronic Keys
Cam follower pad
E46 coolant expansion tank question
Re: E46 coolant expansion tank question
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Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 07:41:00 -0800
From: "Alex Chan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'Matt Bader'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"'Jamie Howton'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "'uucdigest'" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: FW: E46 Steering Wheel Clicking Problem ...
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Hi Matt,
Thanks for the input. Wow. Looks like I will have the service department
to look at the signal arm, and I might have to pay more for another part
might have to be replaced. I am tempted to try to take the steering wheel
apart and have a go with it myself, but the airbag equipped steering wheel
scars me ... do not want the airbag to deploy in the wrong time or have
the airbag not deploy when I really needs it (knocking on wood) ...
especially
I do not have the right tools and diag computer to verify the proper
functioning of the airbag system. This is list just great and have lots of
knowledgeable folks around. Thanks again.
-----Original Message-----
From: Matt Bader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 3:23 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Jamie Howton'
Cc: 'uucdigest'
Subject: RE: [UUC] FW: E46 Steering Wheel Clicking Problem ...
When I had problems with my horn, they identified the issue as the slip ring
and replaced it. Didn't solve the horn problem, and it took the dealer many
hours to finally get it fixed (and it is still a little finicky).
Fortunately, they stuck by their original quote and had to eat many hours of
labor while they tried to pin down a grounding issue in the steering column.
Anyway, I now get some noise out of my steering wheel as well, but it was
such a hassle the first time to get the horn fixed, that I just put up with
it.
Matt Bader
98 M3/4
Delaware
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alex Chan
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 1:43 AM
To: 'Jamie Howton'
Cc: 'uucdigest'
Subject: Re: [UUC] FW: E46 Steering Wheel Clicking Problem ...
Hi Jamie,
Thanks for the input. I will definitely made another appointment with the
service department to have them look at it again. The exactly clicking noise
is when you turn the steering wheel towards the right about 75 degrees or so
and then back 90 degrees or it will click. Just like the turn signal being
cancelled after a turn. Looks like I will have to rely on the service
department to have it fixed.
P.S. Just got a number of digest e-mail (including my first post) just now
fixing my proxy/firewall server after getting lots of rejected e-mail ...
Thanks again.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jamie Howton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 7:54 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: uucdigest
Subject: Re: [UUC] FW: E46 Steering Wheel Clicking Problem ...
Alex,
You should take the car back to the dealer and tell them that replacing the
slip ring didn't solve the problem and ask them to look at it again. I
don't have any experience with a clicking noise from the steering wheel and
it is awfully hard to diagnose problems like this via email. On my E36,
replacing the slip ring cured a squeaking problem, however I have heard from
several other people who have said it didn't. Good luck with it, but I
doubt anyone here will be able to help or they would have when your first
email arrived.
Regards
Jamie
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Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2008 09:15:40 -0800
From: Kazuto Okayasu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'uucdigest'" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: FW: E46 Steering Wheel Clicking Problem ...
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
At 07:41 AM 1/9/2008, Alex Chan wrote:
I can't recall 100% which parts are where in the steering column, but
if replacing the clock spring didn't make the noise go away, it may
be further in the steering column.
Taking the bits apart to get to the clock spring area in a E46 is
fairly straightforward, though. And as long as the battery is
disconnected and you don't do anything stupid, you won't have any
problems with the airbag going off. There is a bit of a trick to
getting the airbag itself out if it's one of the round Sport Package
ones, though.
In terms of being worried about it not going off after you button it
back up, there's enough self-diagnostics in the system that it'll
tell you if you forgot to hook something back up.
>Hi Matt,
>
>Thanks for the input. Wow. Looks like I will have the service department
>to look at the signal arm, and I might have to pay more for another part
>might have to be replaced. I am tempted to try to take the steering wheel
>apart and have a go with it myself, but the airbag equipped steering wheel
>scars me ... do not want the airbag to deploy in the wrong time or have
>the airbag not deploy when I really needs it (knocking on wood) ...
>especially
>I do not have the right tools and diag computer to verify the proper
>functioning of the airbag system. This is list just great and have lots of
>knowledgeable folks around. Thanks again.
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Matt Bader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 3:23 AM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Jamie Howton'
>Cc: 'uucdigest'
>Subject: RE: [UUC] FW: E46 Steering Wheel Clicking Problem ...
>
>When I had problems with my horn, they identified the issue as the slip ring
>and replaced it. Didn't solve the horn problem, and it took the dealer many
>hours to finally get it fixed (and it is still a little finicky).
>Fortunately, they stuck by their original quote and had to eat many hours of
>labor while they tried to pin down a grounding issue in the steering column.
>
>Anyway, I now get some noise out of my steering wheel as well, but it was
>such a hassle the first time to get the horn fixed, that I just put up with
>it.
>
>Matt Bader
>98 M3/4
>Delaware
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alex Chan
>Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 1:43 AM
>To: 'Jamie Howton'
>Cc: 'uucdigest'
>Subject: Re: [UUC] FW: E46 Steering Wheel Clicking Problem ...
>
>
>Hi Jamie,
>
>Thanks for the input. I will definitely made another appointment with the
>service department to have them look at it again. The exactly clicking noise
>is when you turn the steering wheel towards the right about 75 degrees or so
>and then back 90 degrees or it will click. Just like the turn signal being
>cancelled after a turn. Looks like I will have to rely on the service
>department to have it fixed.
>
>P.S. Just got a number of digest e-mail (including my first post) just now
>fixing my proxy/firewall server after getting lots of rejected e-mail ...
>
>
>Thanks again.
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Jamie Howton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 7:54 AM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Cc: uucdigest
>Subject: Re: [UUC] FW: E46 Steering Wheel Clicking Problem ...
>
>Alex,
>
>You should take the car back to the dealer and tell them that replacing the
>slip ring didn't solve the problem and ask them to look at it again. I
>don't have any experience with a clicking noise from the steering wheel and
>it is awfully hard to diagnose problems like this via email. On my E36,
>replacing the slip ring cured a squeaking problem, however I have heard from
>several other people who have said it didn't. Good luck with it, but I
>doubt anyone here will be able to help or they would have when your first
>email arrived.
>
>Regards
>
>Jamie
>
>Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]
>
>
>__________________________________________________________________________
>In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA.
>
>UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate Short
>Shifter - accept no substitutes!
>908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com
>
>
>Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]
>
>
>__________________________________________________________________________
>In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA.
>
>UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate
>Short Shifter - accept no substitutes!
>908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com
Kazuto Okayasu Manager, Desktop Support Services
Administrative Computing Services, University of California, Irvine
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Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 14:12:47 -0600
From: "Paul Craven" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Electronic Keys
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Hi all,
My boss's nephew recently bought a BMW (1993 325i we think) and lost the
key. After contacting BMW he found out that 10 keys had already been
issued for the car, so they could not send another one. This being the
case, what will need to be done to "rekey" the car? He lives in a
remote area of Western KS, so the closest dealer is a couple hundred
miles...
Regards,
Paul Craven
1991 M5
1999 528iT
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Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2008 17:05:12 -0500
From: KMS- Brett Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Paul Craven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
UUC Digest <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Electronic Keys
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Either your year is wrong, or BMW is wrong.
He can have as many keys as he wants made for that car. It does not have
EWS.
Brett Anderson
KMS
Paul Craven wrote:
> Hi all,
> My boss's nephew recently bought a BMW (1993 325i we think) and lost the
> key. After contacting BMW he found out that 10 keys had already been
> issued for the car, so they could not send another one. This being the
> case, what will need to be done to "rekey" the car? He lives in a
> remote area of Western KS, so the closest dealer is a couple hundred
> miles...
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Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 16:16:08 -0600
From: "Paul Craven" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "KMS- Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"UUC Digest" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Electronic Keys
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I must be wrong, I do know he was told the 10 keys had been issued...
Regards,
Paul Craven
-----Original Message-----
From: KMS- Brett Anderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 4:05 PM
To: Paul Craven; UUC Digest
Subject: Re: [UUC] Electronic Keys
Either your year is wrong, or BMW is wrong.
He can have as many keys as he wants made for that car. It does not have
EWS.
Brett Anderson
KMS
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Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2008 17:15:45 -0500
From: KMS- Brett Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Paul Craven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: UUC Digest <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Electronic Keys
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
If it's an EWS car and the 10 keys have been issued, he has to purchase
a new EWS control module and matching keys.
The keys will be cut to match the existing locks.
The unfortunate part for him is that the EWS control module needs to be
programmed after installation, or the car won't start. Check
www.bimrs.org for a shop that's closer to the car than the dealer.
Brett Anderson
KMS
Paul Craven wrote:
> I must be wrong, I do know he was told the 10 keys had been issued...
>
>
> Regards,
> Paul Craven
> -----Original Message-----
> From: KMS- Brett Anderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 4:05 PM
> To: Paul Craven; UUC Digest
> Subject: Re: [UUC] Electronic Keys
>
> Either your year is wrong, or BMW is wrong.
>
> He can have as many keys as he wants made for that car. It does not have
> EWS.
>
> Brett Anderson
> KMS
>
>
--
Brett Anderson
KMS - Koala Motorsport LLC
(440) 564 7574
www.koalamotorsport.com
www.bmwdiffs.com
9988 Kinsman Rd
Novelty OH 44072
(Cleveland Area)
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Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 16:16:00 -0800
From: "Marco Romani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'UUC Digest'" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Electronic Keys
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Speaking of which I think I have two full EWS systems sitting in a box with
keys out of a 96 E36 M3. Are these things worth anything? One is used, and
other is in the original BMW packaging.
Marco
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of KMS- Brett Anderson
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 2:16 PM
To: Paul Craven
Cc: UUC Digest
Subject: Re: [UUC] Electronic Keys
If it's an EWS car and the 10 keys have been issued, he has to purchase
a new EWS control module and matching keys.
The keys will be cut to match the existing locks.
The unfortunate part for him is that the EWS control module needs to be
programmed after installation, or the car won't start. Check
www.bimrs.org for a shop that's closer to the car than the dealer.
Brett Anderson
KMS
Paul Craven wrote:
> I must be wrong, I do know he was told the 10 keys had been issued...
>
>
> Regards,
> Paul Craven
> -----Original Message-----
> From: KMS- Brett Anderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 4:05 PM
> To: Paul Craven; UUC Digest
> Subject: Re: [UUC] Electronic Keys
>
> Either your year is wrong, or BMW is wrong.
>
> He can have as many keys as he wants made for that car. It does not
> have EWS.
>
> Brett Anderson
> KMS
>
>
--
Brett Anderson
KMS - Koala Motorsport LLC
(440) 564 7574
www.koalamotorsport.com
www.bmwdiffs.com
9988 Kinsman Rd
Novelty OH 44072
(Cleveland Area)
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Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2008 19:22:53 -0500
From: KMS- Brett Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Marco Romani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
uuc Digest <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Electronic Keys
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
They're worth something to someone who doesn't mind recoding all the
locks in the car, provided they can also obtain the ignition cylinder to
match.
Brett Anderson
KMS
Marco Romani wrote:
> Speaking of which I think I have two full EWS systems sitting in a box with
> keys out of a 96 E36 M3. Are these things worth anything? One is used, and
> other is in the original BMW packaging.
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Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 17:46:05 -0800
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Cam follower pad
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
On certain of the BMW engines with cam followers, is the pad which rides on
the cam lobes formed with the follower arm or is it attached later? If
attached after, how is it attached?
-Kevin
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Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 19:42:18 -0800 (PST)
From: Matt Weimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: E46 coolant expansion tank question
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Group,
My sisters 2000 E46 323i automatic developed a leak from the expansion tank and
upon removal we discovered another broken piece and I need to understand how
critical it is to replace this item.
At the bottom of the tank is a connection to the transmission cooler via a
mounting bracket/distribution block and within this connection point sits a
thermostat (p/n 17 11 1 437 362). This 'stat has a plastic cap which is
snapped into a coolant passage in the bracket (p/n 17 11 1 436 251).
Unfortunately the cap for the 'stat is broken allowing the the guts to just
"lay there" (technical term) and one of the metal tabs this cap attaches to has
been broken as well. It looks as though the trans cooler will need removed
from the bracket for replacement without the need to break the trans fluid
lines but the TIS is vague on this subject (see document # 17 11 040).
Questions
1) Can the car function temporarily without this thermostat until all of the
correct parts can be sourced?
The goal is to replace the expansion tank, refill the coolant and drive the car
to my parents house a distance of ~120 miles. The car is currently sitting in
a college apartment parking lot on a reasonably steep incline which makes it a
pain to service.
2) Does anyone know if we can replace the bracket on the side of the radiator
without removing the transmission oil supply lines?
I appreciate any insight.
Matt Weimer
Hoosier Chapter
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Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2008 21:37:26 -0800
From: Kazuto Okayasu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: E46 coolant expansion tank question
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Matt Weimer wrote:
I can't be of complete help here, but I replaced the expansion tank on
my MT 01 325 last week, so I think I have some idea of what's going on here.
> Group,
>
> My sisters 2000 E46 323i automatic developed a leak from the expansion tank
> and upon removal we discovered another broken piece and I need to understand
> how critical it is to replace this item.
> [...]
> 2) Does anyone know if we can replace the bracket on the side of the radiator
> without removing the transmission oil supply lines?
>
>
I believe the answer here is yes. Judging by the way it appears the ATF
heat exchanger mounts, and the text in the Bentley, the heat exchanger
can be disconnected from the bracket without breaking the ATF lines. It
then appears on AT cars that the lower heater hose elbow is a separate
part from the bracket (this is part of the bracket on MT cars). Remove
the fan shroud (it sits over the top of the bracket over the top lip of
the radiator), one T25 screw partway down the side of the radiator, and
the bracket pulls straight up.
Sorry, I can't answer #1, though my mechanic warned me that this
thermostat is often destroyed during reinstallation of the expansion tank.
> I appreciate any insight.
>
> Matt Weimer
> Hoosier Chapter
>
>
>
>
>
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