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  Re: Remembering Michel Potheau
  Re: Remembering Michel Potheau
  Re: German seat leather source 
  00 540 engine tick
  Re: 00 540 engine tick
  Re: 00 540 engine tick
  Re: 00 540 engine tick
  Re: Here's one for you folks that still cling to the  K&N
  Re: Here's one for you folks that still cling to the  K&N
  Re: Here's one for you folks that still cling to the K&N filter myth
  Re: Here's one for you folks that still cling to the K&N filter myth

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Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2008 21:04:46 -0600
From: Jenny Morgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Remembering Michel Potheau
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

#2 is #1.

Jenny Morgan


On Jan 2, 2008, at 8:22 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Indeed, still missed.   Strange to think five years have gone by
> already.
>
> The UUC Digest is still dedicated to him.
>
> - Rob
>
>> -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject: Re: [UUC]  Remembering Michel Potheau
>> From: KMS- Brett Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Date: Wed, January 02, 2008 9:15 pm
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Cc: [email protected]
>> Jan 6, 2003.  He is still missed.
>> Brett Anderson
>> KMS
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>> Gruppe:
>>>
>>> It was about this time 4 or 5 years ago that I heard the sad news  
>>> of Michel's
>>> passing.  What year was it Brett?  I'm sure you remember.
>>>
>>> Anyway, I'm sure those of us who were helped along the way by  
>>> Michel's vast
>>> knowledge of "things BMW" miss his wisdom and friendship.
>>>
>>> Rest in peace my friend,
>>>
>>> John Weese
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>> _____________________________________________________________________ 
>> _____
>> In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the  
>> BMW CCA.
>>

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Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2008 22:24:12 -0500
From: "Bailey Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "bmwuucdigest" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Remembering Michel Potheau
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I can't believe that it's been five years either. I wrote the following 
to the BMW Model Collectors list soon after his passing:

>Michel's sudden passing has been a great shock for me, as I'm certain
>it's been for everyone in the BMW world. Our paths crossed several 
>times
>over the past two decades, and it would be an understatement to say 
>that
>we had our differences- but for the past year or so we exchanged 
>e-mails
>which mostly dealt with the trials and tribulations of serving on the
>BMW CCA Board. Michel was even kind enough to co-sponsor a CCA by-law
>amendment which I had proposed. I guess this is all a roundabout way of 
>saying that I
>grew to respect and appreciate Michel immensely over these last few
>months.

I'm glad that his memory is being kept alive.

Bailey Taylor 


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Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2008 19:38:56 -0800
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: German seat leather source 
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


Bill,
Great site thanks. I like the little graphic showing the cow going into the
box and the seat exiting.

-Kevin




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Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 10:42:16 -0600
From: "Alex Cagann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'UUC Digest'" <[email protected]>
Subject: 00 540 engine tick
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I got in a 2000 540i 6speed with 117k on it. When I bought the car, the
engine was warm and it sounded fine. This morning, very cold here, and the
engine was noisy on the passenger side valves. The sound continues until the
car is warm. The oil looks fine and it is at a normal level. If the oil pump
was weak, wouldn't it make noise under both valve covers?  Just what could
be causing this?  

Alex Cagann



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Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 08:29:56 -0800
From: "Marco Romani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'UUC Digest'" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: 00 540 engine tick
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

My guess is a leaky lifter that needs to pump back up after sitting for a
while.  Leaks out while the oil is warm after shutdown and then takes awhile
for the cold think oil to get back into the lifter.  My M3 used to do that
until I went to solid lifters ;-)  As long as you're not beating the crap
out of it until it warms up I wouldn't worry about it.
 
Are you sure its valve noise?  Doesn't that engine have a emissions related
air pump gizmo?  They can be noisy while operating while the engine is cold.

I know my wife's 01 540 makes some funky noises on initial start up.

Marco

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 8:42 AM
To: 'UUC Digest'
Subject: [UUC] 00 540 engine tick


I got in a 2000 540i 6speed with 117k on it. When I bought the car, the
engine was warm and it sounded fine. This morning, very cold here, and the
engine was noisy on the passenger side valves. The sound continues until the
car is warm. The oil looks fine and it is at a normal level. If the oil pump
was weak, wouldn't it make noise under both valve covers?  Just what could
be causing this?  

Alex Cagann


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Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 12:13:07 -0500
From: "Andy Messer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'UUC Digest'" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: 00 540 engine tick
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I can't say for certain 'they all do that' but my 01 740i did that (not
limited to winter... anytime on startup after sitting for several hours),
and I've heard numerous other V8s do that on cold start up.
Like Marco said, I wouldn't worry about it unless it takes a long time to
stop ticking.

Andy
Ex 01 740i
01 525iT
 
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marco Romani
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 11:30 AM
To: 'UUC Digest'
Subject: Re: [UUC] 00 540 engine tick

My guess is a leaky lifter that needs to pump back up after sitting for a
while.  Leaks out while the oil is warm after shutdown and then takes awhile
for the cold think oil to get back into the lifter.  My M3 used to do that
until I went to solid lifters ;-)  As long as you're not beating the crap
out of it until it warms up I wouldn't worry about it.
 
Are you sure its valve noise?  Doesn't that engine have a emissions related
air pump gizmo?  They can be noisy while operating while the engine is cold.

I know my wife's 01 540 makes some funky noises on initial start up.

Marco

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alex Cagann
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 8:42 AM
To: 'UUC Digest'
Subject: [UUC] 00 540 engine tick


I got in a 2000 540i 6speed with 117k on it. When I bought the car, the
engine was warm and it sounded fine. This morning, very cold here, and the
engine was noisy on the passenger side valves. The sound continues until the
car is warm. The oil looks fine and it is at a normal level. If the oil pump
was weak, wouldn't it make noise under both valve covers?  Just what could
be causing this?  

Alex Cagann


Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]


__________________________________________________________________________
In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA.

UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate Short
Shifter - accept no substitutes! 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com

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__________________________________________________________________________
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UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate
Short Shifter - accept no substitutes!
908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com


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Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 12:17:06 -0600
From: "Alex Cagann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'UUC Digest'" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: 00 540 engine tick
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

It keeps ticking for several minutes, until the engine gets pretty
warm....it's definitely longer than usual startup ticking that goes away in
seconds. 

Alex Cagann

> I can't say for certain 'they all do that' but my 01 740i did that (not
> limited to winter... anytime on startup after sitting for several hours),
> and I've heard numerous other V8s do that on cold start up.
> Like Marco said, I wouldn't worry about it unless it takes a long time to
> stop ticking.
> 
> Andy
> Ex 01 740i
> 01 525iT




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Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2008 17:19:38 +0000
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [email protected] (UUC Digest)
Subject: Re: Here's one for you folks that still cling to the  K&N
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Yeah, I keep forgetting that not everyone takes my snide remarks as intended, 
without being shown the proper emoticon.

FWIW, my 325i has been doing just fine for years with my ITG filter.  It was 
not in the test.

Scott Miller
GGC BMW CCA

>Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2008 17:03:34 -0500
>From: Vic Maslanka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [email protected] (UUC Digest)
>Subject: Re: Here's one for you folks that still cling to the  K&N
>Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>Scott, next time add the /sarcasm/ tags.
>
>Vic

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Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2008 17:31:37 +0000
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [email protected] (UUC Digest)
Subject: Re: Here's one for you folks that still cling to the  K&N
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

De fault with Scott should be obvious by now, dontcha think?

Scott

>Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2008 14:27:58 -0800
>From: "John Coffin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "'UUC Digest'" <[email protected]>
>Subject: Re: Here's one for you folks that still cling to the  K&N
>Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>It's that the default setting for Scott?  ;)

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Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2008 16:45:34 -0500
From: Neil Maller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Here's one for you folks that still cling to the K&N filter myth
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

on 1/2/08 9:52 PM, Peter Glaskowsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Uh, I read the data to show that the K&N filter was very bad at
> filtering, but very good at passing air when clean, which is a
> sensible combination.

However were that the sole basis, the ideal filter would simply consist of a
large hole.

Seems to me that the sine qua non of a filter is that, well, it filter.

Neil
Fort Wayne, IN
96 M3      - Bastard child
03 525iT   - Sterling Grey Metallic
05 Mini    - Cooper S with LSD




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Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 15:13:02 -0800 (PST)
From: P Kroon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Neil Maller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
        "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Here's one for you folks that still cling to the K&N filter myth
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Neil,

Not to get into an internet feud, but to take your arguement to the opposite 
extreme, if the sole basis of a filter was to filter out ALL particules, then 
the ideal filter would simply consist of a solid piece of metal with nano-sized 
openings sized to all O2 atoms through only.  

Obviously there are trade-offs when designing a filter much like virtually 
every other part in a car.  It is not like the K&N filter doesn't filter at 
all.  Where one draws the line is a matter of design choice. 

Accipe Hoc :) 

-Paul
02 X5

----- Original Message ----
From: Neil Maller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2008 4:45:34 PM
Subject: Re: [UUC] Here's one for you folks that still cling to the K&N filter 
myth

on 1/2/08 9:52 PM, Peter Glaskowsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Uh, I read the data to show that the K&N filter was very bad at
> filtering, but very good at passing air when clean, which is a
> sensible combination.

However were that the sole basis, the ideal filter would simply consist of a
large hole.

Seems to me that the sine qua non of a filter is that, well, it filter.

Neil
Fort Wayne, IN
96 M3      - Bastard child
03 525iT  - Sterling Grey Metallic
05 Mini    - Cooper S with LSD



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__________________________________________________________________________
In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA.

UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate
Short Shifter - accept no substitutes!
908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com


      
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