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Volume 3 : Issue 560 : "text" Format

Messages in this Issue:
  Re: <E36> front end shake (again)
  E34 rear headrests (sedan) for sale
  1985 325e - parking brake cable
  Re: 1985 325e - parking brake cable
  Re: 1985 325e - parking brake cable
  Re: 1985 325e - parking brake cable
  high mounted center brake light question
  Re: high mounted center brake light question
  (OT) NY Times - I'm shocked, shocked I say.
  Re: (OT) NY Times - I'm shocked, shocked I say.
  Re: (OT) NY Times - I'm shocked, shocked I say.

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Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 11:50:02 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Kevin Jay (Mr.Fabulous)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: <E36> front end shake (again)
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


A little follow-up...

Car parked on all fours, wife in the driver's seat shaking the wheel (engine
off) with me poking around underneath.  I hear something clicking... but I
don't see/feel anything loose.  CABs are fine.  Tie rod ends (factory) would
seem to be past EOL, but I don't feel any play.  Sway bar ends need to go (I
have those already... someplace).  Click might be from within the rack?

Maybe my shake is just the rotors (I sure hope so), I have new parts on order,
we'll find out.  I'll pry good and hard on the arms when she's up in the air
(when I do the rotors) too (the car, not the wife).

**Really** do appreciate all the comments to my original posting...

- k

On Tue, 28 Aug 2007, Kevin Jay (Mr.Fabulous) wrote:
> 
> I replaced my c-arms and bushings late 2002 (maybe 50-60K miles ago).  
> Upgraded to M3 parts in the process (stiffer bushings, and hoping for longer
> life).
> 
> Front-end shake (steering wheel) when braking from high speed returned
> *yesterday*.  Very familiar.  Don't feel it at speeds below perhaps 55-60...
> but brake at higher speeds, and she vibrates like crazy.  Just like when the
> stock c-arm bushings were shot.  AGH.


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Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 18:43:49 -0400
From: "Gregory Bradbury" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: E34 rear headrests (sedan) for sale
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Selling a whole set-up to retrofit rear headrests for an E34 sedan, 
including BMW factory instructions.  Rather than do the whole email first 
contest, I'm listing on Ebay 320154689394 with a modest starting price of 
$9.99.  I did my touring, so I'm out to prevent whiplash elsewhere !!

Greg in Atlanta



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Date: Mon,  3 Sep 2007 19:17:03 -0400 (EDT)
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: 1985 325e - parking brake cable
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Finally getting around to replacing the driver's side parking brake cable. 
Retaining clip holding the cable sheath to the trailing arm had broken several 
years ago allowing the sheath to rub against the half shaft.  Result - Vermont 
winters allowing water and salt to rust the sheath and cable.  I have been able 
to easily separate the sheath from the brake backing plate, but cannot pull the 
sheath free of the insertion point on the body.  The cable is free at that 
point, although I have not removed the parking brake handle yet.  I have used 
PB Blaster and moderate force to try to loosen the cable sheath end, to no 
avail.  Am I missing something, or do I just need more muscle power?

thanks,

Bill Blumenthal

1996 328i
1985 325e
1974 2002 tii (previously)

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Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 19:51:08 -0400
From: KMS- Brett Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: 1985 325e - parking brake cable
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

It's rusted into the body and likely won't come out.

Keep working at it.  I'd say you'll end up living without a park brake 
cable on that side, but I have seen them come loose after a lot of work.


Brett Anderson
KMS


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Finally getting around to replacing the driver's side parking brake
> cable. Retaining clip holding the cable sheath to the trailing arm
> had broken several years ago allowing the sheath to rub against the
> half shaft.  Result - Vermont winters allowing water and salt to rust
> the sheath and cable.  I have been able to easily separate the sheath
> from the brake backing plate, but cannot pull the sheath free of the
> insertion point on the body.  The cable is free at that point,
> although I have not removed the parking brake handle yet.  I have
> used PB Blaster and moderate force to try to loosen the cable sheath
> end, to no avail.  Am I missing something, or do I just need more
> muscle power?
> 
> thanks,
> 
> Bill Blumenthal

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Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 22:13:05 -0400
From: "Rich Dorffer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [email protected]
Cc: "KMS- Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 1985 325e - parking brake cable
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

On 9/3/07, KMS- Brett Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It's rusted into the body and likely won't come out.

BTDT.  I ended up cutting it off where it rusted into the tube leading
into the center console and then drilling out the remnants.  What a
PITA.

> Keep working at it.  I'd say you'll end up living without a park brake
> cable on that side, but I have seen them come loose after a lot of work.

Stay with it, I did, and mine work for the first time since I bought
the car.  I only had to do one side which was good.

Regards,

Rich

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Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 22:33:58 -0400
From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: 1985 325e - parking brake cable
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Sometimes its easier to trade for a new car.
Gary Derian


> BTDT.  I ended up cutting it off where it rusted into the tube leading
> into the center console and then drilling out the remnants.  What a
> PITA.
> 
>> Keep working at it.  I'd say you'll end up living without a park brake
>> cable on that side, but I have seen them come loose after a lot of work.
> 
> Stay with it, I did, and mine work for the first time since I bought
> the car.  I only had to do one side which was good.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Rich


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Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 23:48:50 -0400
From: Ed MacVaugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: high mounted center brake light question
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Client in a 1987 Ford Ranger pickup was given a repair order and 
required to repair her center brake light. Problem is, it isn't a brake 
light, but rather a white light that illuminates the bed of the truck at 
night.

Where can I find out when pickup trucks started being equipped with 
center brake lights? Domestic cars were 1986, imported cars in 1987.

Ed

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Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 21:44:39 -0700
From: David Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Ed MacVaugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [email protected]
Subject: Re: high mounted center brake light question
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

On Monday 03 September 2007 8:48:50 pm Ed MacVaugh wrote:
> Where can I find out when pickup trucks started being equipped with
> center brake lights? Domestic cars were 1986, imported cars in 1987.

Light trucks and vans were required to have them starting in 1994.

Dave

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Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 23:12:15 -0400
From: Dennis Liu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Ferrari List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "911" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
        "BMW List" <[email protected]>
Subject: (OT) NY Times - I'm shocked, shocked I say.
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/02/business/yourmoney/02view.html?ex=13463856
00&en=3433641694d7701e&ei=5090

September 2, 2007

Economic View
Welcome, Stranger. Here's a Speeding Ticket. 

By JUDITH CHEVALIER

DRIVING through a tiny Vermont town a few weeks ago on my way to drop off my
daughter at camp, I saw flashing yellow lights appear in my rearview mirror.


My car had picked up speed coming down a hill, and a police officer pulled
me over. As I waited for a ticket, I wondered: Does this town supplement its
finances by giving tickets to visitors like me? 

I never got to the bottom of the situation in that particular town, but the
broader question - whether police officers in some towns are motivated by
fund-raising as well as safety when writing traffic tickets - has been
examined systematically by others. Michael D. Makowsky, a doctoral student
in economics, and Thomas Stratmann, an economics professor, both at George
Mason University, studied the issue in a recent paper, "Political Economy at
Any Speed: What Determines Traffic Citations?" 


They examined every warning and citation written by police officers in all
of Massachusetts, excluding Boston, during a two-month period in 2001 - over
60,000 in all. Their conclusion wasn't shocking to an economist: money
matters, even in traffic violations. They found a statistical link between a
town's finances and the likelihood that its police officers would issue a
speeding ticket. The details are a little sticky, but they show that tickets
were issued more often in places that were short on cash, and that
out-of-towners received tickets more often than drivers with local
addresses. 

First, some background: In Massachusetts, a police officer is given the
discretion to decide whether to issue a warning, which carries no fine, or a
citation, which does. The fines for the tickets issued in that period by
local police officers totaled $1.8 million, with state troopers issuing $1.7
million more in tickets. The study focused on the local police.

Municipal finance in Massachusetts is affected by Proposition 2.5, which in
1980 placed a cap on overall property tax levies and on their rate of
growth. It turns out that traffic tickets are affected by the proposition,
too - or at least that's what the study found. 

Under Proposition 2.5, total property tax collections cannot rise more than
2.5 percent a year, but local voters can override that restriction by
passing a referendum. The researchers assumed that, on average, towns that
had proposed to override referendums but failed to pass them were more
constrained financially than other towns. In fact, they found that for
drivers who exceeded the speed limit by any given amount, the probability of
receiving a fine rather than a warning from a local police officer increased
by 28 percent if the town's voters had rejected a Proposition 2.5 override
in a referendum.

Mr. Makowsky and Mr. Stratmann also showed that out-of-town drivers -
especially out-of-state drivers - were much more likely to get citations. A
driver from out of town had a 10 percent higher probability of getting a
ticket than a local driver, holding speed and other characteristics
constant. Out-of-state plates added 10 percent to the probability of getting
a ticket. 

Furthermore, if an out-of-town driver happened to be driving in a town that
had rejected a Proposition 2.5 override, he or she had a 37 percent higher
chance of getting a ticket than a local driver traveling at the same speed.
"This suggests that the local voters who voted down the tax increases have
had some success in passing off their tax burden to nonvoters," Mr.
Stratmann said. 

He and his co-author speculated that the seeming discrimination against
out-of-towners by the local police might be explained by two factors: a
desire to avoid antagonizing local voters and a preference for ticketing
people who were less likely to travel to court to protest a ticket. 

The phenomenon noted in the study may have implications beyond speeding
tickets. During the housing price run-up, property tax revenue in the United
States rose substantially - by 20 percent over all from 2002 to 2005. With
housing prices now flat or down, town governments may try to seek property
tax rate increases, and voters may resist. Historically, economists have
noticed that when there is a lid on property taxes, towns turn to user fees
and other sources of revenue - like speeding tickets - to avoid spending
cuts.

Assuming that the study's results have some predictive power for other
states, it may seem surprising that I received only a warning from the
officer who stopped me in Vermont, despite my Connecticut license plates. In
their paper, Mr. Makowsky and Mr. Stratmann did find that ticketing was
modestly lower in towns with high levels of employment in the hospitality
industry, suggesting that police departments might consider the effects of
aggressive ticketing on local commerce.

Perhaps the officer wanted to make sure that my daughter would return to
camp next summer - or perhaps he really just wanted me to slow down. 

Judith Chevalier is a professor of economics and finance at the Yale School
of Management.


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Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 23:43:52 -0500
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>, "Ferrari List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
        "911" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: (OT) NY Times - I'm shocked, shocked I say.
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

What police car has "flashing yellow lights"?

Jon
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dennis Liu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Ferrari List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "911" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "BMW 
List" <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 10:12 PM
Subject: [UUC] (OT) NY Times - I'm shocked, shocked I say.


>
> http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/02/business/yourmoney/02view.html?ex=13463856
> 00&en=3433641694d7701e&ei=5090
>
> September 2, 2007
>
> Economic View
> Welcome, Stranger. Here's a Speeding Ticket.
>
> By JUDITH CHEVALIER
>
> DRIVING through a tiny Vermont town a few weeks ago on my way to drop off 
> my
> daughter at camp, I saw flashing yellow lights appear in my rearview 
> mirror.
>
>
> My car had picked up speed coming down a hill, and a police officer pulled
> me over. As I waited for a ticket, I wondered: Does this town supplement 
> its
> finances by giving tickets to visitors like me?
>
> I never got to the bottom of the situation in that particular town, but 
> the
> broader question - whether police officers in some towns are motivated by
> fund-raising as well as safety when writing traffic tickets - has been
> examined systematically by others. Michael D. Makowsky, a doctoral student
> in economics, and Thomas Stratmann, an economics professor, both at George
> Mason University, studied the issue in a recent paper, "Political Economy 
> at
> Any Speed: What Determines Traffic Citations?"
>
>
> They examined every warning and citation written by police officers in all
> of Massachusetts, excluding Boston, during a two-month period in 2001 - 
> over
> 60,000 in all. Their conclusion wasn't shocking to an economist: money
> matters, even in traffic violations. They found a statistical link between 
> a
> town's finances and the likelihood that its police officers would issue a
> speeding ticket. The details are a little sticky, but they show that 
> tickets
> were issued more often in places that were short on cash, and that
> out-of-towners received tickets more often than drivers with local
> addresses.
>
> First, some background: In Massachusetts, a police officer is given the
> discretion to decide whether to issue a warning, which carries no fine, or 
> a
> citation, which does. The fines for the tickets issued in that period by
> local police officers totaled $1.8 million, with state troopers issuing 
> $1.7
> million more in tickets. The study focused on the local police.
>
> Municipal finance in Massachusetts is affected by Proposition 2.5, which 
> in
> 1980 placed a cap on overall property tax levies and on their rate of
> growth. It turns out that traffic tickets are affected by the proposition,
> too - or at least that's what the study found.
>
> Under Proposition 2.5, total property tax collections cannot rise more 
> than
> 2.5 percent a year, but local voters can override that restriction by
> passing a referendum. The researchers assumed that, on average, towns that
> had proposed to override referendums but failed to pass them were more
> constrained financially than other towns. In fact, they found that for
> drivers who exceeded the speed limit by any given amount, the probability 
> of
> receiving a fine rather than a warning from a local police officer 
> increased
> by 28 percent if the town's voters had rejected a Proposition 2.5 override
> in a referendum.
>
> Mr. Makowsky and Mr. Stratmann also showed that out-of-town drivers -
> especially out-of-state drivers - were much more likely to get citations. 
> A
> driver from out of town had a 10 percent higher probability of getting a
> ticket than a local driver, holding speed and other characteristics
> constant. Out-of-state plates added 10 percent to the probability of 
> getting
> a ticket.
>
> Furthermore, if an out-of-town driver happened to be driving in a town 
> that
> had rejected a Proposition 2.5 override, he or she had a 37 percent higher
> chance of getting a ticket than a local driver traveling at the same 
> speed.
> "This suggests that the local voters who voted down the tax increases have
> had some success in passing off their tax burden to nonvoters," Mr.
> Stratmann said.
>
> He and his co-author speculated that the seeming discrimination against
> out-of-towners by the local police might be explained by two factors: a
> desire to avoid antagonizing local voters and a preference for ticketing
> people who were less likely to travel to court to protest a ticket.
>
> The phenomenon noted in the study may have implications beyond speeding
> tickets. During the housing price run-up, property tax revenue in the 
> United
> States rose substantially - by 20 percent over all from 2002 to 2005. With
> housing prices now flat or down, town governments may try to seek property
> tax rate increases, and voters may resist. Historically, economists have
> noticed that when there is a lid on property taxes, towns turn to user 
> fees
> and other sources of revenue - like speeding tickets - to avoid spending
> cuts.
>
> Assuming that the study's results have some predictive power for other
> states, it may seem surprising that I received only a warning from the
> officer who stopped me in Vermont, despite my Connecticut license plates. 
> In
> their paper, Mr. Makowsky and Mr. Stratmann did find that ticketing was
> modestly lower in towns with high levels of employment in the hospitality
> industry, suggesting that police departments might consider the effects of
> aggressive ticketing on local commerce.
>
> Perhaps the officer wanted to make sure that my daughter would return to
> camp next summer - or perhaps he really just wanted me to slow down.
>
> Judith Chevalier is a professor of economics and finance at the Yale 
> School
> of Management.
>
> Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]
>
>
> __________________________________________________________________________
> In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA.
>
> UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate
> Short Shifter - accept no substitutes!
> 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com 


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Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 09:40:05 -0400
From: Steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: "BMW List" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: (OT) NY Times - I'm shocked, shocked I say.
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

2.5mil in 2 months??  That's a lot of speeders!

On 9/3/07, Dennis Liu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/02/business/yourmoney/02view.html?ex=13463856
> 00&en=3433641694d7701e&ei=5090
>
> September 2, 2007
>
> Economic View
> Welcome, Stranger. Here's a Speeding Ticket.
>
> By JUDITH CHEVALIER
>
> DRIVING through a tiny Vermont town a few weeks ago on my way to drop off my
> daughter at camp, I saw flashing yellow lights appear in my rearview mirror.
>
>
> My car had picked up speed coming down a hill, and a police officer pulled
> me over. As I waited for a ticket, I wondered: Does this town supplement its
> finances by giving tickets to visitors like me?
>
> I never got to the bottom of the situation in that particular town, but the
> broader question - whether police officers in some towns are motivated by
> fund-raising as well as safety when writing traffic tickets - has been
> examined systematically by others. Michael D. Makowsky, a doctoral student
> in economics, and Thomas Stratmann, an economics professor, both at George
> Mason University, studied the issue in a recent paper, "Political Economy at
> Any Speed: What Determines Traffic Citations?"
>
>
> They examined every warning and citation written by police officers in all
> of Massachusetts, excluding Boston, during a two-month period in 2001 - over
> 60,000 in all. Their conclusion wasn't shocking to an economist: money
> matters, even in traffic violations. They found a statistical link between a
> town's finances and the likelihood that its police officers would issue a
> speeding ticket. The details are a little sticky, but they show that tickets
> were issued more often in places that were short on cash, and that
> out-of-towners received tickets more often than drivers with local
> addresses.
>
> First, some background: In Massachusetts, a police officer is given the
> discretion to decide whether to issue a warning, which carries no fine, or a
> citation, which does. The fines for the tickets issued in that period by
> local police officers totaled $1.8 million, with state troopers issuing $1.7
> million more in tickets. The study focused on the local police.
>
> Municipal finance in Massachusetts is affected by Proposition 2.5, which in
> 1980 placed a cap on overall property tax levies and on their rate of
> growth. It turns out that traffic tickets are affected by the proposition,
> too - or at least that's what the study found.
>
> Under Proposition 2.5, total property tax collections cannot rise more than
> 2.5 percent a year, but local voters can override that restriction by
> passing a referendum. The researchers assumed that, on average, towns that
> had proposed to override referendums but failed to pass them were more
> constrained financially than other towns. In fact, they found that for
> drivers who exceeded the speed limit by any given amount, the probability of
> receiving a fine rather than a warning from a local police officer increased
> by 28 percent if the town's voters had rejected a Proposition 2.5 override
> in a referendum.
>
> Mr. Makowsky and Mr. Stratmann also showed that out-of-town drivers -
> especially out-of-state drivers - were much more likely to get citations. A
> driver from out of town had a 10 percent higher probability of getting a
> ticket than a local driver, holding speed and other characteristics
> constant. Out-of-state plates added 10 percent to the probability of getting
> a ticket.
>
> Furthermore, if an out-of-town driver happened to be driving in a town that
> had rejected a Proposition 2.5 override, he or she had a 37 percent higher
> chance of getting a ticket than a local driver traveling at the same speed.
> "This suggests that the local voters who voted down the tax increases have
> had some success in passing off their tax burden to nonvoters," Mr.
> Stratmann said.
>
> He and his co-author speculated that the seeming discrimination against
> out-of-towners by the local police might be explained by two factors: a
> desire to avoid antagonizing local voters and a preference for ticketing
> people who were less likely to travel to court to protest a ticket.
>
> The phenomenon noted in the study may have implications beyond speeding
> tickets. During the housing price run-up, property tax revenue in the United
> States rose substantially - by 20 percent over all from 2002 to 2005. With
> housing prices now flat or down, town governments may try to seek property
> tax rate increases, and voters may resist. Historically, economists have
> noticed that when there is a lid on property taxes, towns turn to user fees
> and other sources of revenue - like speeding tickets - to avoid spending
> cuts.
>
> Assuming that the study's results have some predictive power for other
> states, it may seem surprising that I received only a warning from the
> officer who stopped me in Vermont, despite my Connecticut license plates. In
> their paper, Mr. Makowsky and Mr. Stratmann did find that ticketing was
> modestly lower in towns with high levels of employment in the hospitality
> industry, suggesting that police departments might consider the effects of
> aggressive ticketing on local commerce.
>
> Perhaps the officer wanted to make sure that my daughter would return to
> camp next summer - or perhaps he really just wanted me to slow down.
>
> Judith Chevalier is a professor of economics and finance at the Yale School
> of Management.
>
> Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]
>
>
> __________________________________________________________________________
> In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA.
>
> UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate
> Short Shifter - accept no substitutes!
> 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com
>

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