Alex,

I agree 100%. The PM does have the problems you describe, but with those
problems come benefits like being able to run third-party software and
so on. I think both are great products, if I didn't, I wouldn't be
considering getting a BrailleNote. They're just different. Each of us
has to choose the one that best meets our needs at any given time.
Cheers,
Donna

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alex Parks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 3:25 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [email protected]
> Subject: RE: [Braillenote] future of the braille note
> 
> 
> What you say is true, but I liken the PM to a mini computer 
> running Windows and JAWS.  Therefore, the problems encountered in 
> JAWS on a PC (focus issues, programs not being accessible, and so 
> on) can occur in the PM since it runs JAWS on Windows.  The BN 
> has no such problems because it was made from the ground up with 
> the blind user in mind, so it will always be accessible.  Obvious 
> drawbacks include no 3rd party applications and a higher cost, 
> but if you want to never worry about your machine not working 
> with a program or anything along those lines then the BN is best.  
> I am not trying to start a debate here, just point out some 
> things.
> 
> Have a great day,
> Alex
> 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Donna Goodin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >To: "'Alex Parks'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,"'Richard Wells'"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,<[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> r.demon.co.uk>,<[email protected]
> >Date sent: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 13:40:16 -0400
> >Subject: RE: [Braillenote] future of the braille note
> 
> >As a current user of that product, I would put a couple of
> caveats on
> >these statements.
> 
> >First, The PM is the better choice if you actually want to be
> running
> >Windows.
> 
> >Second, my sense from the discussions on this list, is that the
> PM does
> >a much better job of handling Word documents.
> 
> >3.  The PM does run Instant Messenger, so that would be something
> to
> >consider if it is important to you.
> 
> >I also have the impression that BN users have to perform resets
> much
> >more frequently, though that could be just an impression.
> 
> >Just some food for thought.
> >Cheers,
> >Donna
> 
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alex 
> >> Parks
> >> Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 1:22 PM
> >> To: Richard Wells; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 
> >> [email protected]
> >> Subject: re: [Braillenote] future of the braille note
> 
> 
> >> The omni will run CE 5, but Windows Mobile 6.  Also, the 
> MPower has 
> >> 125 mb ram as will the Omni.  However, I agree completely 
> with what 
> >> you said and recommend the same course of action.
> 
> >> Have a great day,
> >> Alex
> 
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>From: Richard Wells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>To: David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED],[email protected]
> >>>Date sent: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 11:35:14 -0500
> >>>Subject: re: [Braillenote] future of the braille note
> 
> >>>Hello,
> 
> >>>Comparing the SmallTalk Ultra is apples to oranges since this
> device
> >>>runs Windows XP.
> 
> >>>In the case of the PAC Mate however, in my humble oppinion,
> >> we should
> >>>definitely stay far away from it and continue to follow the
> >> BrailleNote
> >>>devices if we need customized notetaker for the blind
> >> functionality.
> >>>My reasons for suggesting this course of action is the 
> following: 1.  
> >>>PAC Mate, even upgraded will have only have half the RAM of the 
> >>>currently available M-power line. 2.  Absolutely no other on-board 
> >>>hardware changes are being made to the PAC Mate.  In other 
> words, we 
> >>>are still stuck with one USB port to serve client and host 
> devices.  
> >>>There are still no SD
> >> card
> >>>slots...  only two CF slots.  On-board Bluetooth support is not 
> >>>forth-coming.  They are not upgrading the processor...  only
> >> doubling
> >>>the RAM to 128 MEGS which is, as I have already stated, only half
> of
> >>>what the M-power units are sporting.
> 
> >>>PAC Mate running Windows Mobile 5 is going to be dog slow! As for
> me
> >>>and my house...  we are staying with, and recommending the
> Humanware
> >>>family of notetakers.
> 
> >>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>From: David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>>To: John Gallagher
> >>><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,[email protected]
> >>>>Date sent: Sun, 16 Sep 2007 07:20:39 -0500
> >>>>Subject: re: [Braillenote] future of the braille note
> 
> >>>>I'm not sure what the future holds, but in order to upgrade to
> say,
> >>>>8.0, you must buy 7.5 somewhere down the line.  I won't
> >> tell you what
> >>>>kind of machine to buy, but I will say that the Pac Mate and
> Small
> >>>>Talk Ultra are not going to provide the same efficiency as the
> Bn.
> >>>>David
> 
> >>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>>From: John Gallagher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>>>To: [email protected]
> >>>>>Date sent: Sun, 16 Sep 2007 10:40:37 +0100
> >>>>>Subject: [Braillenote] future of the braille note
> 
> >>>>>Hi list
> >>>>>very interesting listening to the posts on the upgrade.
> >>>>>I live in the uk and feel that the upgrade is not worth it for
> >>>>me.
> >>>>>I am not sure what the cost is but I will wait to see what the
> >>>>future holds.
> >>>>>I am very busy piano tuning playing chess and living a full life
> >>>>so,
> >>>>>I may have missed some emails especially concerning the future of
> >>>>our
> >>>>>braille notes.
> >>>>>I am a pk user and note the pac mate is moving forward in
> >>>>October.
> >>>>>does anyone know about the future of our grate product?
> >>>>>I am very seriously considering purchasing the small talk ultra
> >>>>for
> >>>>>portability and the use of windows xp.
> >>>>>I would love to be able to stream from say the bbc with my pk but
> >>>>of
> >>>>>course this cannot be done.
> >>>>>I work away a lot so need portability.
> >>>>>cheers.
> >>>>>the gps on the pk is the best.
> 
> 
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