Hi Tony, Bought a B2 about 2006, and have had it on a timer with daily use since then. I have replaced a few parts, nothing major or unexpected.
I upgraded the machine to rotary and PID about a year ago (WLL kits), and the difference in noise is significant. I would estimate half as loud with rotary and waaaaaaaaay more convenient, especially if you plumb the drip tray also, and dampen rattling parts. I would never consider going back to vibe. Todd at WLL is a superstar, and will give you very personal help when you need it. However, I have always found dealing with the regular WLL folks to be less than ideal. Phone calls almost never get returned on time, parts ship late or with significant delays and you get no notification. I hate to say these things because I love Todd and have sung his praises many times here, but as I've told him many times, he has a problem inside the company. Just stuff to know as you go into this purchase. If you are not comfortable servicing the machine, you may find yourself without a machine for several months if you send it in for warranty work. I'm sure others will chime in here on both sides which would be appropriate. Also look at the Alex on Chris Coffee, a roughly equivalent machine. Best, bmc Sent from my 8-track deck On Mar 22, 2012, at 20:55, Greg Shaw <[email protected]> wrote: > I bought my Brewtus in 2004 and use it every day. Love it. > > Sent from my iPad > > On Mar 22, 2012, at 7:00 PM, Tegespresso <[email protected]> wrote: > >> All GREAT INFO and thx everyone for taking time to answer my >> concerns. It is a big help getting input from others that own these >> exact machines. >> >> With that said, I flipped a coin and it landed on its side.....lol. I >> am still torn on getting the entry level Brewtus IV or jump up $250 >> and get the IV-R. >> >> I do have RO water (for my saltwater fish tank hobby) so I can easily >> plumb unit simply by tee-ing off a short 15' away in the basement and >> run the line to my kitchen. And I can simply tie the drain line into >> a large jug so I do not have to empty tray all the time (and easily >> hide the jug behind cabinet. So it does look like I am leaning a bit >> to the IV-R. >> >> I really wish Todd from WLL would chime in and give his valued input >> on the noise level of the two units. Frankly, that is the main factor >> for me upgrading and the plumbed unit as a close second. Noise REALLY >> bothers me....I know I am a pain in the butt:-). >> >> Finally, I guess I am asking a really loaded question when I ask this >> group if they like the Expobar machines overall. The Duetto II and >> the Vibiemme are both more costly and I do not think you get more for >> your money from either of those two machine. The Vibiemme Domobar >> Double (double boiler unit that they carry) does look like a sweet >> machine, but not at $2,650. It does have dual PID and looks very >> nice, but spending another $400-ish to get there is out of the >> question. And quite frankly I have heard equal amounts of chatter >> from the forums about Duetto II and Brewtus, so all machines have >> their issues and will need some sort of repair down the line. Let's >> face it, these espresso machines have a ton of different parts, >> pressure issues, water quality, care of use, etc, etc. >> >> I really like WLL and they swear by the Expobar line of machines as >> one of their best at pulling shots out of all units they carry. And >> this is the 4th iteration of the machine, which is pretty nice that >> they keep upgrading any deficiencies as they go. >> >> Anyhow, a bit winded I know, and many thanks again. Keep they >> comments, opinions and suggestions coming!!!!!!!!! >> >> MANY THX...Tony >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Brewtus" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/brewtus?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Brewtus" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/brewtus?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Brewtus" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/brewtus?hl=en.
