wow, such defensive flames!! since you all have only experience with ONE machine (maybe 2 or 3) MY perspective is FAR different. Having worked on dozens of different makes.
Expos are built to the minimum standard. They use the identical boiler for both purposes in the brewtus for example. Therefore the front -- brew-- boiler has two PLUGS in the bottom, which in this customer's case started to leak. It cost 1.5 hours ($150) labor to correct the leak. pulling the boiler, getting the plugs out, re-sealing them, and re-connecting the boiler. If they had another part number for the brew boiler, MADE without the holes, that are not used, NO leaks would have happened there. Simple *HELPFUL SUGGESTION:* 18 gauge power cords! that HEAT UP and cause an over *4 TO 5 volt drop* from the wall to the heater(s). I am seeing newer ones with 16 ga, which is still not really adequate. Why are they saving a dollar to LIMIT the machine's performance? 14 or 12 gauge would be ideal. We routinely replace the 18 ga with 14 to make the machine run better. The HEAT goes into the machine, not warming the power cord. Makes sense. *REPLACE YOUR SMALL POWER CORDS WITH 14 OR EVEN 12 GAUGE* You guys all like your machines, there is no need for the defensiveness. but, hey this is the internet, *ad hominem attacks are expected if one deviates from the orthodoxy* It is an OK unit, there are other choices. Maybe there is a reason Chris Coffee, 1st line, SCG and others dol NOT carry Expo. We are happy to fix 'em and even improve them! *Now, Mr McCafferty, back to ohm's law, sir.* On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 5:03 PM, Ben McCafferty <[email protected]> wrote: > Dave--you do not contribute to this list. All you do is bash the machine, > never offer any suggestions, and act superior. My experience level is > irrelevant--I am here to help, you are not. > > Again, go back under your rock and leave this list alone. You serve no > purpose here other than antagonizing the membership. I don't know if you > get off on it or what, but it is uncalled for, unprofessional, and reflects > poorly on you as a "human", to use your words. > > Perhaps you should look up the word "humanity" while sitting on high. > > b > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Mar 31, 2016, at 07:30, Dave B <[email protected]> wrote: > > DO YOU Ben, work on espresso machines, 40 hour week, for over ten years? > > Machines like: Bezzera, Pasquini, La Cimbali, vibiemme, Bravo, Nuova, LM, > Quick Mill, Rancilio, Saeco, Gaggia, Isomac, the list goes on. . . . > > Thousands of machines, thousands of contented customers. > > Please DO enumerate YOUR experience level, Mr. McCafferty. > > And please try to discontinue the tiresome "harassment" and "get a life" > foolishness. It is boring and only reflects poorly on you and 'herman'. > > Machines that are well cared for with soft water and a monthly cleaning do > NOT need work every 2 years. > > REALITY CHECK: Having repaired dozens of Expobars, we find them to be > more trouble-prone than others. > (BTW, We have personally measured samples of expo heaters to be 8-10 > ohms, with a calibrated Fluke 87-4) > > feel free to call us, 213 800 3286 10-5 M-F for advice, support or just > to say hi! > > Thanks! and best regards > > > On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 3:23 PM, Ben McCafferty <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Other than that pesky ohm's law. Resistance should be 13-17 ohms, not >> 8-10. >> >> And testing high limit for continuity is the same as open or closed, >> Dave. >> >> Go back under your bridge Dave--your ongoing harassment of this group is >> still not welcome, nor your false belief that other machines never need >> repair. >> >> bmc >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Mar 8, 2016, at 10:27, Dave B <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> A good espresso machine, well cared for, should NOT NEED "bi-annual" >> fixes. Think about it. >> a heater either works or it does not. >> A high limit switch is either CLOSED or OPEN never in between >> the heater should show 8 to 10 ohms resistance -- never more. >> >> On Sat, Mar 5, 2016 at 8:53 AM, Ben McCafferty <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >>> Why not test anyway? >>> b >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Mar 5, 2016, at 08:13, herman dickens <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Don't worry it will come back. lol Good luck, hopefully it's something >>> easy. >>> >>> On Sat, Mar 5, 2016 at 10:27 AM, Eric Christoffersen <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Woke this am mind ready to disassemble and test. 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