Bottom of the machine is the solid state relay for the PID; Todd tells me this 
is unlikely to fail. The black box below the PID is the giemme; and the display 
is the PID as you said. I don't know how to test the giemme short of swapping 
in a known good one. 
I would do the PID first, and then the giemme. Also could pop the cover on the 
giemme and look at the two relay points in the clear blue housing. One set was 
pretty clearly burned on my old one. 
Best,
bmc

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> On Mar 20, 2016, at 13:40, Eric Christoffersen <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Honestly I don't remember which is which with the temp control stuff. This is 
> a b2 so original stuff was replaced long ago. I had to replace the display 
> again a while ago (error code A2.)
> 
> There is a biggish box bolted to the bottom of the machine, I think its's a 
> relay of some sort? Then there is the display which I assumed contained the 
> pid, and finally there is a box under the display, I thought it was just a 
> big switchbox.
> 
> Anyhoo. I tried probing around the exposed connections and couldn't find what 
> might be the source of the brew warm signal. Where should I test to diagnose 
> further?
> 
> Eric
> 
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